Re: Ove Interest?

On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 19:17:31 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

On 2/24/2025 6:59 PM, John B. wrote:

On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 14:30:30 -0600, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
 

On 2/24/2025 1:39 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 2/24/2025 12:13 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:

On 2/24/2025 11:37 AM, John B. wrote:

On Mon, 24 Feb 2025 09:23:04 -0600, AMuzi
<am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 2/24/2025 8:49 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 2/24/2025 8:09 AM, John B. wrote:

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I would doubt very much that a large segment of the
readers here would
be familiar with the term  Zen.

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I suppose you could ask.
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Speaking for myself, it's been about a week since Zen
Buddhism came up in conversation with a friend, and there
was a brief mention in a conversation with different
friends
two days ago.
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Not that I'm an expert.
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+1 I think most people have at least a passing familiarity.
I read this in 1967 but never achieved enlightenment. Nor
was I able to levitate. Dammit.
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https://www.alibris.com/Life-and-teaching-of-the-
masters-of-the-Far- East-Baird-T-Spalding/book/3929244?
matches=181

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Apparently from your posts you had an interest in Asia.
But for the
others I find it rather unusual that a Usian would know
anything about
a branch of Buddhism that is so little known even where
the major
version of the religion is as common as it is here.

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I think it's a bit more recognized than you're assuming.
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In my youth when I was looking at different religions I
spent a bit of time on Buddhism. Let's call it quite a bit
more than a passing interest, but I never claimed to
actually follow the teachings of the Buddha. I read a
number of books on the practice, listened to Kirtans,
meditated, and started yoga (as a meditation technique
rather than fitness. These days I do my own practice a few
times a week and go to classes occasionally with my wife,
who teaches at a couple of local studios)
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The moniker 'Zencycle' is a reference to the level of
mindfulness I can achieve while riding.
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*
A Bicycle koan
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A Zen Teacher saw five of his students return from the
market, riding their bicycles. When they had dismounted,
the teacher asked the students,
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“Why are you riding your bicycles?”
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The first student replied, “The bicycle is carrying this
sack of potatoes. I am glad that I do not have to carry
them on my back!”
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The teacher praised the student, saying, “You are a smart
boy. When you grow old, you will not walk hunched over, as
I do.”
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The second student replied, “I love to watch the trees and
fields pass by as I roll down the path.”
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The teacher commended the student, “Your eyes are open and
you see the world.”
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The third student replied, “When I ride my bicycle, I am
content to chant, nam myoho renge kyo.”
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The teacher gave praise to the third student, “Your mind
will roll with the ease of a newly trued wheel.”
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The fourth student answered, “Riding my bicycle, I live in
harmony with all beings.”
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The teacher was pleased and said, “You are riding on the
golden path of non-harming.”
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The fifth student replied, “I ride my bicycle to ride my
bicycle.”
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The teacher went and sat at the feet of the fifth student,
and said, “I am your disciple."
*

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I remember reading that one before. I don't remember where
or when.
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Grant Peterson's newsletter about 20 years ago.

 
I think, solely from your post, that you are interpreting "Zen" as
something not much different from Theravada Buddhism, at least as
practiced in the largest Buddhist nation (92% of population) in the
world, which concerns all of an individuals action - a Monk may not
touch money for example.
 
Zen is a variation of the Buddhist teaching with emphasis on one's
individual action, mainly meditation, to attain Nirvana.
 
Still Buddhism, but not exactly the same thing.
 
Much like Christianity with its Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and
the innumerable Protestant churches.
 
 

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Meh. Everyone has an opinion.
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https://www.zen-azi.org/en/zen-in-japan

The more I understand about Zen, the more I realize that it isn't
what's happening when I'm having some alone time, nor is it something
I want to do. My mind would simply be wasting my time when it's not
processing something.

--
C'est bon
Soloman