Re: Ove Interest?

On 3/4/2025 6:52 PM, John B. wrote:

 The point is that Frank, over and over, has told us that guns in
houses results in increased home shootings, no, "is", "maybe", "that
example doesn't count" excuses.

The available data for America clearly shows that. American households with guns have a much higher incidence of family members killing family members, compared to American households without guns, no matter what sort of neighborhood.
That's the data that exactly applies to the point you're addressing. Why do you discount that data and go looking for excuses?

And now, when I mention that Switzerland doesn't have the same
problem, Suddenly, Frankie comes up with all the  same "is", "Maybe"
and "don't count" excuse that he has ignored for years.

Look again, John. Switzerland has far fewer guns per person than the U.S. Switzerland also has far fewer shooting deaths per person than the U.S.
Switzerland has more guns per person than France. Switzerland also has more shooting deaths per person than France.
Switzerland has more guns per person than Britain. Switzerland also has more shooting deaths per person than Britain.
We can repeat this with the same results for many, many countries. But of prosperous "developed" nations, the U.S. is an outlier, both regarding number of guns and gun death rates per capita.

So the real question is "Is Frank simply a confirmed liar"? Or is
Frank so stupid that he never bothered to actually study the subject
and just parroted the "party line" as it were?

I'd say the question is "Is John really unable to understand the data?" I suspect you're not. Instead, I suspect your deep reverence for guns doesn't allow you to even consider data contrary to your position.
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- Frank Krygowski