Sujet : Re: bike path news
De : am (at) *nospam* yellowjersey.org (AMuzi)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 11. Mar 2025, 15:36:33
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On 3/11/2025 9:20 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:
On 3/11/2025 8:57 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2025 10:09 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/10/2025 9:37 PM, John B. wrote:
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Well... you exhibit a fear of firearms ...
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Bullshit. I exhibit distaste for the American fetish for firearms, and the effect it has on society. And I exhibit scorn for paranoia so severe as to cause a person to _require_ a firearm to do ordinary things like ride a quiet bike path, drive a car, fill a gas tank, etc.
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I'm sympathetic to those controlled by some phobias. Not this one.
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And BTW, it's not just our super-timid tricyclist. One classmate of mine in an adult education class brought his handgun to a class picnic in the country. Nice guy, but that was crazy paranoia. Another guy, less admirable in general, bragged to me about carrying his handgun into a folk music concert we attended. Absolute stupidity, and crazy paranoia.
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That latter guy played guitar, but was so obese that he used a special stand to hold his guitar out away from his belly. Maybe his physical shortcomings triggered feelings of great vulnerability, as with Mr. Tricycle? Nonetheless, his risk assessment was off the charts crazy - as is Mr. Tricycle's.
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Replace 'firearm' in the above with 'bicycle helmet'.
Same argument.
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And regarding risk assessment, I'm reasonable certain that this shopping mall in Greenwood Indiana never experienced a deranged madman shooting into a crown before, and most probably never will again.
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However, on one fine July day, it happened.
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https://americanmilitarynews.com/2022/07/hero-armed- citizen-landed-8- of-10-shots-at-40-yards-to-stop-mass- shooting-in-15-seconds/
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Not especially that Mr Dicken was lawfully carrying only days after the Indiana statute had changed to allow carry.
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p.s. 8 of ten at 40 feet instantaneously without preparation is excellent marksmanship. Not achievable without some diligence and range time.
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Which doesn't bode well for people who carry for personal protection and never take the time and diligence. If there was a law requiring range time and accuracy to carry a gun, I'd be a lot more confident in the general public carrying guns. Instead, cases like this are far more prevalent:
https://people.com/calif-toddler-accidentally-shoots-and- kills-mother-with-unsecured-gun-police-8759431
Much agreed.
In the same way that red light running cyclists or the meandering idiots in and out of a lane or the wrong-way cyclists all drive me nuts, I very much agree that firearm ineptitude/fecklessness/reckless disregard is a real problem.
Which is a matter of practical implementation not of principle itself.
-- Andrew Muziam@yellowjersey.orgOpen every day since 1 April, 1971