Sujet : Re: bike path news
De : funkmaster (at) *nospam* hotmail.com (Zen Cycle)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 12. Mar 2025, 15:50:45
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Organisation : A noiseless patient Spider
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On 3/12/2025 4:37 AM, floriduh dumbass wrote:
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On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 04:19:11 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
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On 3/11/2025 8:45 PM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 11 Mar 2025 10:20:18 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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On 3/11/2025 8:57 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/10/2025 10:09 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/10/2025 9:37 PM, John B. wrote:
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Well... you exhibit a fear of firearms ...
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Bullshit. I exhibit distaste for the American fetish for firearms, and
the effect it has on society. And I exhibit scorn for paranoia so
severe as to cause a person to _require_ a firearm to do ordinary
things like ride a quiet bike path, drive a car, fill a gas tank, etc.
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I'm sympathetic to those controlled by some phobias. Not this one.
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And BTW, it's not just our super-timid tricyclist. One classmate of
mine in an adult education class brought his handgun to a class picnic
in the country. Nice guy, but that was crazy paranoia. Another guy,
less admirable in general, bragged to me about carrying his handgun
into a folk music concert we attended. Absolute stupidity, and crazy
paranoia.
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That latter guy played guitar, but was so obese that he used a special
stand to hold his guitar out away from his belly. Maybe his physical
shortcomings triggered feelings of great vulnerability, as with Mr.
Tricycle? Nonetheless, his risk assessment was off the charts crazy -
as is Mr. Tricycle's.
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Replace 'firearm' in the above with 'bicycle helmet'.
Same argument.
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And regarding risk assessment, I'm reasonable certain that this
shopping mall in Greenwood Indiana never experienced a deranged madman
shooting into a crown before, and most probably never will again.
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However, on one fine July day, it happened.
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https://americanmilitarynews.com/2022/07/hero-armed-citizen- landed-8-
of-10-shots-at-40-yards-to-stop-mass-shooting-in-15-seconds/
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Not especially that Mr Dicken was lawfully carrying only days after the
Indiana statute had changed to allow carry.
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p.s. 8 of ten at 40 feet instantaneously without preparation is
excellent marksmanship. Not achievable without some diligence and range
time.
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Which doesn't bode well for people who carry for personal protection and
never take the time and diligence. If there was a law requiring range
time and accuracy to carry a gun, I'd be a lot more confident in the
general public carrying guns. Instead, cases like this are far more
prevalent:
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https://people.com/calif-toddler-accidentally-shoots-and-kills- mother-with-unsecured-gun-police-8759431
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Ah But, as your reference states the boyfriend committed an illegal
act, and was charged, The Florida guy is talking about a legal act.
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A bit of a difference, wouldn't one think?
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not much. The gun fetishists (lobby) thinks any restrictions on gun
ownership are unconstitutional. In their (small) minds, the boyfriend
did nothing wrong.
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Besides, there's this:
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https://www.fox13news.com/news/parents-4-year-old-boy-who- accidentally-shot-killed-himself-will-not-be-charged-davenport-police
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The child found the gun underneath the seat underneath the seat
accidentally shot himself. No laws were broken. In floriduh, HB 1087 was
introduced that would have required owners to lock their firearms in a
trunk or glove box when left inside an unoccupied car. It died in committe.
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Then there's this:
https://nypost.com/2024/08/26/us-news/5-year-old-utah-boy-dies- after-shooting-himself-with-parents-gun/
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Again, no laws were broken, there is no Utah law against leaving
unattended weapons accessible to minors, and also does not require
weapons to be secured.
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https://www.fox13news.com/news/parents-4-year-old-boy-who- accidentally-shot-killed-himself-will-not-be-charged-davenport-police
"The child found the gun underneath the seat underneath the seat
accidentally shot himself. No laws were broken. In floriduh, HB 1087
was introduced that would have required owners to lock their firearms
in a trunk or glove box when left inside an unoccupied car. It died in
committe."
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Nope, it was signed into law.
https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2023/1087/?Tab=BillHistory
This is exactly why you have no credibility. It might have helped if you didn't pull a tommy and actually bothered to read your link.
You linked house bill 1087 from 2023 - a year before HB 1087 2024 was introduced - which addressed chld support payments.
From your link:
HB 1087: Child Support
GENERAL BILL by Caruso ; (CO-INTRODUCERS) Basabe ; Benjamin
Child Support; Authorizes deferral of support payments for obligor's good faith job training efforts
House bill 1087 from 2024 is here:
https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2024/1087HB 1087: Storage of Firearms in Motor Vehicles or Vessels
GENERAL BILL by Casello ; Daley ; (CO-INTRODUCERS) López, J.
Storage of Firearms in Motor Vehicles or Vessels; Provides requirements for storage of firearms in motor vehicles or vessels.
Bill History
Date Chamber Action
1/2/2024 House • Filed
1/9/2024 House • Referred to Criminal Justice Subcommittee
• Referred to Local Administration, Federal Affairs & Special Districts Subcommittee
• Referred to Judiciary Committee
• Now in Criminal Justice Subcommittee
• 1st Reading (Original Filed Version)
3/8/2024 House • Died in Criminal Justice Subcommittee
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However, I agree with Chief Parker that the law didn't go far enough.
It should be a felony for some moron to leave a gun laying around in
an unoccupied car.
Considering it's not a law at all, your opinion of it is pretty pointless, dumbass.
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I should've also said that letting a gun slide around under the seat
of your vehicle is an incredibly stupid thing to do, and the glove box
is not a good place to leave it when unattended. The first place a car
burglar will look is under the seat and the second place is the glove
box, which is easily opened with a screwdriver or pocket knife.
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I also believe that open carry is wrong headed. Too easy to grab if
out in the open.
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If I go into a restroom or a restaurant when out riding, the gun does
not get left on the Catrike. It goes into my trunk bag along with my
phone and computer and goes with me.
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Until that one time you forget.
Floriduh dumbass making the dumbshine state proud, yet again.