Sujet : Re: bike path news
De : frkrygow (at) *nospam* sbcglobal.net (Frank Krygowski)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 13. Mar 2025, 02:20:51
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On 3/12/2025 8:39 PM, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 12 Mar 2025 08:05:33 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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In the same way that red light running cyclists or the
meandering idiots in and out of a lane or the wrong-way
cyclists all drive me nuts, I very much agree that firearm
ineptitude/fecklessness/reckless disregard is a real problem.
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Which is a matter of practical implementation not of
principle itself.
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Right. Try enacting a law calling for serious training and
re-certification of gun owners. See what the NRA and GOA say
about that. "Hell no, we have a constitutional right to be
incompetent!"
Yet another example of someone talking about something he knows
nothing about:
"According to available information, states that typically require
proof of training before issuing a gun license include: California,
Connecticut, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York,
Washington, and the District of Columbia; these states often mandate
completion of a firearm safety course to obtain a license to carry a
concealed weapon"
Sorry, John. In Ohio there's no "serious training" needed to buy a gun. A person may have to pass a background check - say, to show he hasn't already been convicted of beating his wife - but that's far from the same thing.
Some states may require a tiny bit of multiple choice testing, but that's not "serious training" either. California's "Firearm Safety Certificate" (FSC) requires getting 75% on a written test after reading this booklet:
https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/forms/hscsg.pdf Counting that as "serious training" is like calling Tom's "reading out three libraries" the same as an engineering degree.
And note that carrying a concealed weapon - in your paragraph - is much different than just owning a gun, which is what I was talking about.
If there is a state that requires actual serious training before owning a gun, I haven't heard of it.
-- - Frank Krygowski