Re: bike path news

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Sujet : Re: bike path news
De : Soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Ryder)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 13. Mar 2025, 09:49:19
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On 13 Mar 2025 00:25:27 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On 12 Mar 2025 17:00:23 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
 
Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On 12 Mar 2025 06:31:29 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
 
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11 Mar 2025 15:46:28 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
 
cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tue Mar 11 10:58:45 2025 Roger Merriman  wrote:
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11 Mar 2025 10:23:20 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
 
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 3/10/2025 6:21 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/10/2025 2:38 PM, AMuzi wrote:
 
People form their own opinions and arrange their own
behavior based on their own situation.
 
Yes - or based on their own phobias. I know people who are
horribly afraid of spiders, garter snakes, honeybees,
graveyards and more.
 
Smart? No. Logical? No. But at least they're not carrying
lethal weaponry.
 
My daughter for example used to take the train to work in
inclement or bitter cold Chicago winters.
No longer. ...
 
You're the anecdote master, Andrew. But IIRC you've not yet
found a horrifying anecdote about quiet bike paths in
suburban Florida, near our timid tricycle rider.
 
 
The murder of this thread was of an unarmed man on a bike path.
 
 
Just because it can happen doesnt mean it will happen, going out on limb
but I suspect that CatTrike Ryder will be perfectly safe with or without
carrying any guns on his rides.
 
I suspect he knows this as well, but simply likes having the gun on him?
 
Roger Merriman
 
I spent more then a year in Vietnam where people did, on occasion,
shoot at you and I can assure you that a firearm did give you a
certain sense of security :-)
 
Even when they weren't shooting :-)
 
I?m assuming this was the Vietnam war or similar which is a kinda difficult
risk case to put it mildly!
 
And yes there are places where having a gun on you seems a wise decision,
riding your bike even in America doesn?t seems likely hence the absence of
bike specific kit to do so.
 
 
 
 
Do you suppose that Vietnam or Laos is safe today?
 
 
I?d assume so yes, I?d confidently predict it has lower violent crime rate
than US, certainly folks who have gone there or lived there haven?t claimed
they needed a gun or someone with gun for protection!
 
Roger Merriman
 
 
I can't speak for Vietnam or Laos, which are both Communist,  but in
Thailand, my nephew - manages a family business in the village -
estimates that every business will have at least one gun (legal or
not) on the premises and all gold shops, for sure, will have one at
the sales counter, and they will shoot.
 
That is moving goal posts, ie folks are using guns as deterrent against
robbery at high value stores.
 
And yes guns can be a deterrent, here as the armed police are so lethal,
and using a gun will make you a target both literally and for
investigation, so only very dumb folks use guns as the risks are so high,
and tend to pay the price for doing so.
 
That?s rather different to having a gun, for bike ride or popping to the
shops and so on.
 
Roger Merriman
 
The Europeans, especially the Brits, are much more willing to let
their government run their lives for them than we USAians. The attempt
here to move us in that direction that was soundly rejected in the
last election.
 
--
C'est bon
Soloman
 
 
Guns as protection or other weapons where used particularly in the era of
the highwaymen but was more seen as tool than a culture, ie when the risk
diminished then it fell out of use and over time became regulated.
 
Roger Merriman
 
From what I understand, in the UK, guns were regulated out of
existance by the government.
 
--
C'est bon
Soloman
 
>
Folks who have a need or want, ie farmers/hunters/target shooters
absolutely own guns, generally rifles/shot guns. Handguns bar target
shooters aren’t legal but then hardly useful for farmers/hunters either so.
>
Roger Merriman

So, only criminals have handguns. It's good that you don't have as
many thugs, crooks, and gangs as the USA.

--
C'est bon
Soloman

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