Re: Dead Vermont cyclist

Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

On 15 Mar 2025 10:03:53 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
 

Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 22:47:32 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
 

On 3/14/2025 4:37 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 15:10:40 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
 

On 3/14/2025 1:25 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 11:44:15 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

 
Nope, I'm not sympathetic. What rule could be more fundamental than
"Don't hit someone walking (or bicycling) with your car"?
 
And if killing someone with your car isn't sufficient for forbidding
future driving, what would be?
 
Is the permission to drive really more important than a person's life?

 
Isn't there a law against riding your bicycle in the path of a moving
car?

 
What nonsense!

 
Oh well, go ahead and do it....

 
I do it all the time. I did it many times on today's ride, as usual. I'm
not nearly as fearful or as ignorant of the law as you are.
 
Man up, if you can.

 
I'm pretty sure that if I ride into the path of fast moving vehicles
and get hit, it'd be my own fault.
 
--
C'est bon
Soloman
 

 
There is world of difference between riding on a road, as one should be
able to so, and other users of the road as every have to adjust to others
using the road, back in wales I can encounter all manner of vehicles and
animals!
 
Even in london and areas around get
pedestrians/scooters/bikes/horses/motorbikes/milk
floats/vans/buses/lorries.
 
All of which will use the roads in different ways, unless it’s a motorway
where all traffic is broadly traveling same speeds.
 
Roger Merriman

 
Of course I'm not arguing against riding on streets and roads. I do it
regularly. Buit just like in a vehicle, moving into the path of a
faster moving vehicle might not be a good idea.
 
 
At 30 mph you need roughly 120 feet to come to a complete stop (65
feet to react and 55 feet to brake) in good conditions.
 
At 60 mph you need roughly 360 feet to come to a complete stop (130
feet to react and 190 feet to brake) in good conditions.
 
https://zutobi.com/us/driver-guides/reaction-braking-stopping-distance
 
--
C'est bon
Soloman
 

Don’t think Frank would have issue with that, only pushback I guess being
folks speeding or not driving to the conditions, but in general do need to
take into account oncoming traffic and that you have a gap to pull
into/cross safely.

Roger Merriman