Sujet : Re: Job Offer
De : jeffl (at) *nospam* cruzio.com (Jeff Liebermann)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 15. Mar 2025, 19:51:19
Autres entêtes
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2025 14:25:57 -0400, Frank Krygowski
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frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 3/15/2025 9:22 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/14/2025 8:09 PM, John B. wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what does a "productive engineer" do?
He does the actual work, so the majority, the unproductive engineers,
can enjoy financial security.
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No, the majority of engineers are not unproductive. Unproductive
engineers get fired.
Nope. Unproductive engineers get promoted and become managers. If
that fails, they either find another job or get fired. Note the Tom
has claimed to have been a manager at several companies.
"Why engineers should become terrific managers, but often dont."
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https://issurvivor.com/2012/08/13/why-engineers-should-make-terrific-managers-but-often-dont/>
See Peter's Principle for how it works:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle>
02/09/2021
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https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/_Y1MbXuzvNo/m/o6omSxsfAgAJ>
"general education - Degree in navigation
Tality requested I get a BA so that they could promote me to
department manager
Chabot College - Hayward, CA"
08/13/2023
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https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/os7AghdvUBA/m/-i474K9uBAAJ>
"I was a professional management consultant - remember? Companies that
ignored my advice failed rapidly."
etc.
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