Re: Job Offer

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Sujet : Re: Job Offer
De : jeffl (at) *nospam* cruzio.com (Jeff Liebermann)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 16. Mar 2025, 21:23:50
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 13:39:25 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

On 3/16/2025 1:29 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 13:33:56 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
 
On 3/16/2025 12:51 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sat Mar 15 14:30:01 2025 Frank Krygowski  wrote:
>
As a matter of fact: Many years ago, one dolt in this newsgroup claimed
he was going to snitch to the dean of my college that I was posting
during working hours.
>
Said dolt had no idea of when I was working or not (including,
frequently, beyond midnight). And he had no idea that the dean was more
than perfectly satisfied with my work. He (or she) would never have
given his complaint a minute of thought.
>
Frank, from your tone of posting I can only assume that you're referring to me.
>
No, Tom, it wasn't you. I guess you can take some small comfort in the
fact that you're not the only dolt who's ever posted to this group
making threats against others.
>
But you might ask yourself what sort of dean would be satisfied with ANY teacher's work? It is a dean's job to never be happy with the work of anyone under him and to always work for improvements.
>
As usual, you're demonstrating total ignorance about how education
really works. That's not an uncommon problem for those lacking education.
>
>
--
- Frank Krygowski
 
Education is a good thing. It's the schools and the teachers that have
become the problem.
 
--
C'est bon
Soloman
>
Certainly not all but enough to shatter confidence and to
pursue alternatives.

Students don't attend college to learn much that will later be useful.
At best, students learn the basics.  After graduation, students are
expected to continue their education by gaining real world experience
in their chosen field.  Many graduates fail to survive the shock of
the transition from the basics, to doing something useful, for which
an employer might consider worthy of paying a salary. 

I'm not going to attempt to assign the blame or offer solutions for
the problem.  Well, maybe just a small attempt.  (Frank will probably
hate me).  Most colleges are designed to manufacture academics who
will eventually become teachers.  It's a safe solution for those who
fail to survive the shock of transition from basics to being
productive.  For what it's worth, I learned far more from instructors
who had extensive industry experience than from those who teach by and
from the book.

My college motto was "Learn by Doing".  My version was "Learn by
Destroying".  You don't understand something until you've torn it
apart to see how it works and then repaired it:
<https://www.cpp.edu/polyadvantage/application-of-knowledge.shtml>


--
Jeff Liebermann                 jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272      http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann      AE6KS    831-336-2558

Date Sujet#  Auteur
14 Mar 25 * Re: Job Offer410Frank Krygowski
14 Mar 25 +* Re: Job Offer386Zen Cycle
14 Mar 25 i+* Re: Job Offer383Zen Cycle
15 Mar 25 ii+* Re: Job Offer12John B.
15 Mar 25 iii+* Re: Job Offer2zen cycle
17 Mar 25 iiii`- Re: Job Offer1zen cycle
15 Mar 25 iii+* Re: Job Offer5AMuzi
15 Mar 25 iiii+- Re: Job Offer1John B.
15 Mar 25 iiii`* Re: Job Offer3Frank Krygowski
15 Mar 25 iiii +- Re: Job Offer1Jeff Liebermann
15 Mar 25 iiii `- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
16 Mar 25 iii+* Re: Job Offer2Jeff Liebermann
17 Mar 25 iiii`- Re: Job Offer1zen cycle
17 Mar 25 iii`* Re: Job Offer2zen cycle
18 Mar 25 iii `- Re: Job Offer1zen cycle
15 Mar 25 ii`* Re: Job Offer370Frank Krygowski
16 Mar 25 ii +* Re: Job Offer360Frank Krygowski
16 Mar 25 ii i`* Re: Job Offer359Catrike Ryder
16 Mar 25 ii i +* Re: Job Offer79AMuzi
16 Mar 25 ii i i+* Re: Job Offer77Jeff Liebermann
16 Mar 25 ii i ii+* Re: Job Offer45Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 25 ii i iii+* Re: Job Offer43Frank Krygowski
17 Mar 25 ii i iiii+- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 25 ii i iiii+* Re: Job Offer38AMuzi
17 Mar 25 ii i iiiii`* Re: Job Offer37Frank Krygowski
17 Mar 25 ii i iiiii +- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 25 ii i iiiii +* Re: Job Offer32AMuzi
17 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i`* Re: Job Offer31Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i `* Re: Job Offer30AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i  `* Re: Job Offer29John B.
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i   `* Re: Job Offer28Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    +* Re: Job Offer24John B.
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    i+* Re: Job Offer21Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii`* Re: Job Offer20Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii +* Re: Job Offer18John B.
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii i+* Re: Job Offer2Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii`- Re: Job Offer1Roger Merriman
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii i+* Re: Job Offer14Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii`* Re: Job Offer13Roger Merriman
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii +* Re: Job Offer4Rolf Mantel
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii i`* Re: Job Offer3Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii i `* Re: Job Offer2Rolf Mantel
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii i  `- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii +- Re: Job Offer1AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii `* Re: Job Offer7Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii  `* Re: Job Offer6AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii   +* Re: Job Offer2Zen Cycle
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii   i`- Re: Job Offer1AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii   +- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii   `* Re: Job Offer2Roger Merriman
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii    `- Re: Job Offer1AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii i`- Re: Job Offer1Rolf Mantel
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii `- Re: Job Offer1Roger Merriman
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    i`* Re: Job Offer2AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    i `- Re: Job Offer1John B.
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    +* Re: Job Offer2AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    i`- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    `- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii `* Re: Job Offer3Frank Krygowski
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii  `* Re: Job Offer2Frank Krygowski
19 Mar 25 ii i iiiii   `- Re: Job Offer1Zen Cycle
18 Mar 25 ii i iiii`* Re: Job Offer3Frank Krygowski
18 Mar 25 ii i iiii +- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiii `- Re: Job Offer1zen cycle
17 Mar 25 ii i iii`- Re: Job Offer1Jeff Liebermann
17 Mar 25 ii i ii`* Re: Job Offer31Frank Krygowski
17 Mar 25 ii i ii +* Re: Job Offer29Jeff Liebermann
17 Mar 25 ii i ii i+* Re: Job Offer11John B.
17 Mar 25 ii i ii ii`* Re: Job Offer10Jeff Liebermann
17 Mar 25 ii i ii ii +- Re: Job Offer1Jeff Liebermann
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii `* Re: Job Offer8John B.
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii  `* Re: Job Offer7zen cycle
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   +* Re: Job Offer5John B.
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   i+* Re: Job Offer3zen cycle
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   ii`* Re: Job Offer2John B.
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   ii `- Re: Job Offer1AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   i`- Re: Job Offer1AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   `- Re: Job Offer1Jeff Liebermann
17 Mar 25 ii i ii i+* Re: Job Offer15AMuzi
17 Mar 25 ii i ii ii`* Re: Job Offer14Jeff Liebermann
17 Mar 25 ii i ii ii +- Re: Job Offer1AMuzi
17 Mar 25 ii i ii ii +- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 25 ii i ii ii `* Re: Job Offer11Shadow
17 Mar 25 ii i ii ii  `* Re: Job Offer10Jeff Liebermann
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   +- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   +* Re: Job Offer2Shadow
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   i`- Re: Job Offer1Jeff Liebermann
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   `* Re: Job Offer6Frank Krygowski
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii    +- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii    `* Re: Job Offer4AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii     `* Re: Job Offer3Roger Merriman
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii      `* Re: Job Offer2Shadow
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii       `- Re: Job Offer1Roger Merriman
17 Mar 25 ii i ii i`* Re: Job Offer2Jeff Liebermann
18 Mar 25 ii i ii i `- Re: Job Offer1Jeff Liebermann
17 Mar 25 ii i ii `- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 25 ii i i`- Re: Job Offer1John B.
16 Mar 25 ii i `* Re: Job Offer279Jeff Liebermann
16 Mar 25 ii i  `* Re: Job Offer278AMuzi
17 Mar 25 ii i   `* Re: Job Offer277John B.
17 Mar 25 ii i    `* Re: Job Offer276Shadow
16 Mar 25 ii `* Re: Job Offer9Shadow
19 Mar 25 i`* Re: Job Offer2sms
15 Mar 25 +* Re: Job Offer19Frank Krygowski
17 Mar 25 `* Re: Job Offer4Jeff Liebermann

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