Sujet : Re: Job Offer
De : am (at) *nospam* yellowjersey.org (AMuzi)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 17. Mar 2025, 18:06:55
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On 3/17/2025 12:03 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 11:35:21 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 3/17/2025 11:07 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/17/2025 10:30 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/16/2025 10:01 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/16/2025 4:28 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
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Education isn't an accomplishment, it's a tool.
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It's both. Education can't be simply given to a person.
It can be greatly helped by a competent teacher, but the
person still has to work to achieve it. Doing that
successfully is an accomplishment.
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What's odd is that this discussion group has a few
denizens who think they can accomplish just as much
without that tool.
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In modern parlance, they actually are the tools.
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I don't think it's binary or Manichean. That is, both or
all can be true in different examples.
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Examples abound of both autodidacts with gaping holes in
their repertoire (me) and others who accomplished much
from the same background (Franklin).
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Benjamin Franklin was brilliant. It's been pointed out that
his science accomplishments alone would have won Nobel
Prizes had they existed.
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But any modern American is a fool if he says "Franklin was
great and he learned it all himself. So I don't need no
schooling."
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Right, that would be a logical leap in most cases.
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Still and all, situations, capacity, attitude and resources
vary so much that a certificate or a degree may not hold a
good return for everyone.
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Again this is the difference between education broadly and
certification specifically. No one wants a heart surgeon or
structural engineer who sorta gets the general idea in his
field:
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-BpW_cM7iYc
I very clearly remember the moment when I reached awareness. It was in
fourth grade and I was assigned a couple of pages of long division,
which I was ordered to copy out of the book and "<LOL> solve.... I
did a couple and then it hit me. I know how to do this and doing it
over and over serves no purpose. That's when I started ignoring the
assignments and going ahead in the book on my own. I did very little
homework from that day on, but I did well on all the tests. The
ignorant teachers insisted on basing too much of the grades on the
"daily work, instead of simply how much was learned. I think it hurt
their feelings that I ignored their instructions.
Most of what I know, I learned by reading and experimenting. Yeah, I
know that wouldn't work for doctors, nurses, and dentists, but those
kinds of professions are too restrictive for me anyway.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
Good point, and you understand the difference. See also airplane mechanics.-- Andrew Muziam@yellowjersey.orgOpen every day since 1 April, 1971