Re: Job Offer

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Sujet : Re: Job Offer
De : Soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Ryder)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 18. Mar 2025, 09:34:24
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 22:36:07 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On 3/17/2025 1:22 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Mar 16 23:01:50 2025 Frank Krygowski  wrote:
On 3/16/2025 4:28 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
 
Education isn't an accomplishment, it's a tool.
>
It's both. Education can't be simply given to a person. It can be
greatly helped by a competent teacher, but the person still has to work
to achieve it. Doing that successfully is an accomplishment.
>
What's odd is that this discussion group has a few denizens who think
they can accomplish just as much without that tool.
>
In modern parlance, they actually are the tools.
 
So you're agreeing that an engineer can be self taught? I thought that you'd never agree to that!
>
I'm responding only because if I don't, you'll claim I said something I
didn't.
>
Can a person self-educate and become a licensed and officially
recognized engineer? AFAIK that's not possible.
>
Can a person learn enough stuff on his own to do some vaguely
engineering-related tasks and call himself an engineer? Yes, you seem to
have done that. But you were not an engineer, and the jobs you've
bragged about do not meet the definition of engineering.
>
Can a person give himself an engineering education equivalent to what
he'd get in an accredited engineering program, and be as effective and
versatile as a graduate of such a program? I'd say unless he's the
mental equivalent of Isaac Newton, his chances are very close to zero.
Maybe not absolute zero, but within one millionth of zero.
>
And you, Tom, are nowhere near intelligent enough to pull off such a feat.

It depends on the individual...

I knew of a guy with an engineering degree from an accredited
university who needed me to explain what a quadratic equation was and
how to apply it to electric generators' input output curves to
establish their most efficient combined loading. I had to build a
working model in Lotus for him.

He didn't last long in my world. I don't know what happened to him. He
might have become a teacher.

--
C'est bon
Soloman

Date Sujet#  Auteur
14 Mar 25 * Re: Job Offer410Frank Krygowski
14 Mar 25 +* Re: Job Offer386Zen Cycle
14 Mar 25 i+* Re: Job Offer383Zen Cycle
15 Mar 25 ii+* Re: Job Offer12John B.
15 Mar 25 iii+* Re: Job Offer2zen cycle
17 Mar 25 iiii`- Re: Job Offer1zen cycle
15 Mar 25 iii+* Re: Job Offer5AMuzi
15 Mar 25 iiii+- Re: Job Offer1John B.
15 Mar 25 iiii`* Re: Job Offer3Frank Krygowski
15 Mar 25 iiii +- Re: Job Offer1Jeff Liebermann
15 Mar 25 iiii `- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
16 Mar 25 iii+* Re: Job Offer2Jeff Liebermann
17 Mar 25 iiii`- Re: Job Offer1zen cycle
17 Mar 25 iii`* Re: Job Offer2zen cycle
18 Mar 25 iii `- Re: Job Offer1zen cycle
15 Mar 25 ii`* Re: Job Offer370Frank Krygowski
16 Mar 25 ii +* Re: Job Offer360Frank Krygowski
16 Mar 25 ii i`* Re: Job Offer359Catrike Ryder
16 Mar 25 ii i +* Re: Job Offer79AMuzi
16 Mar 25 ii i i+* Re: Job Offer77Jeff Liebermann
16 Mar 25 ii i ii+* Re: Job Offer45Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 25 ii i iii+* Re: Job Offer43Frank Krygowski
17 Mar 25 ii i iiii+- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 25 ii i iiii+* Re: Job Offer38AMuzi
17 Mar 25 ii i iiiii`* Re: Job Offer37Frank Krygowski
17 Mar 25 ii i iiiii +- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 25 ii i iiiii +* Re: Job Offer32AMuzi
17 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i`* Re: Job Offer31Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i `* Re: Job Offer30AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i  `* Re: Job Offer29John B.
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i   `* Re: Job Offer28Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    +* Re: Job Offer24John B.
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    i+* Re: Job Offer21Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii`* Re: Job Offer20Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii +* Re: Job Offer18John B.
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii i+* Re: Job Offer2Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii`- Re: Job Offer1Roger Merriman
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii i+* Re: Job Offer14Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii`* Re: Job Offer13Roger Merriman
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii +* Re: Job Offer4Rolf Mantel
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii i`* Re: Job Offer3Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii i `* Re: Job Offer2Rolf Mantel
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii i  `- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii +- Re: Job Offer1AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii `* Re: Job Offer7Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii  `* Re: Job Offer6AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii   +* Re: Job Offer2Zen Cycle
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii   i`- Re: Job Offer1AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii   +- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii   `* Re: Job Offer2Roger Merriman
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii    `- Re: Job Offer1AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii i`- Re: Job Offer1Rolf Mantel
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii `- Re: Job Offer1Roger Merriman
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    i`* Re: Job Offer2AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    i `- Re: Job Offer1John B.
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    +* Re: Job Offer2AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    i`- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    `- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii `* Re: Job Offer3Frank Krygowski
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii  `* Re: Job Offer2Frank Krygowski
19 Mar 25 ii i iiiii   `- Re: Job Offer1Zen Cycle
18 Mar 25 ii i iiii`* Re: Job Offer3Frank Krygowski
18 Mar 25 ii i iiii +- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiii `- Re: Job Offer1zen cycle
17 Mar 25 ii i iii`- Re: Job Offer1Jeff Liebermann
17 Mar 25 ii i ii`* Re: Job Offer31Frank Krygowski
17 Mar 25 ii i ii +* Re: Job Offer29Jeff Liebermann
17 Mar 25 ii i ii i+* Re: Job Offer11John B.
17 Mar 25 ii i ii ii`* Re: Job Offer10Jeff Liebermann
17 Mar 25 ii i ii ii +- Re: Job Offer1Jeff Liebermann
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii `* Re: Job Offer8John B.
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii  `* Re: Job Offer7zen cycle
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   +* Re: Job Offer5John B.
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   i+* Re: Job Offer3zen cycle
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   ii`* Re: Job Offer2John B.
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   ii `- Re: Job Offer1AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   i`- Re: Job Offer1AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   `- Re: Job Offer1Jeff Liebermann
17 Mar 25 ii i ii i+* Re: Job Offer15AMuzi
17 Mar 25 ii i ii ii`* Re: Job Offer14Jeff Liebermann
17 Mar 25 ii i ii ii +- Re: Job Offer1AMuzi
17 Mar 25 ii i ii ii +- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 25 ii i ii ii `* Re: Job Offer11Shadow
17 Mar 25 ii i ii ii  `* Re: Job Offer10Jeff Liebermann
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   +- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   +* Re: Job Offer2Shadow
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   i`- Re: Job Offer1Jeff Liebermann
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   `* Re: Job Offer6Frank Krygowski
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii    +- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii    `* Re: Job Offer4AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii     `* Re: Job Offer3Roger Merriman
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii      `* Re: Job Offer2Shadow
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii       `- Re: Job Offer1Roger Merriman
17 Mar 25 ii i ii i`* Re: Job Offer2Jeff Liebermann
18 Mar 25 ii i ii i `- Re: Job Offer1Jeff Liebermann
17 Mar 25 ii i ii `- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 25 ii i i`- Re: Job Offer1John B.
16 Mar 25 ii i `* Re: Job Offer279Jeff Liebermann
16 Mar 25 ii i  `* Re: Job Offer278AMuzi
17 Mar 25 ii i   `* Re: Job Offer277John B.
17 Mar 25 ii i    `* Re: Job Offer276Shadow
16 Mar 25 ii `* Re: Job Offer9Shadow
19 Mar 25 i`* Re: Job Offer2sms
15 Mar 25 +* Re: Job Offer19Frank Krygowski
17 Mar 25 `* Re: Job Offer4Jeff Liebermann

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