Sujet : Re: Job Offer
De : Soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Ryder)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 18. Mar 2025, 09:34:24
Autres entêtes
Organisation : A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID : <9maitjljd3332mqauj6qq0528gq80lctfe@4ax.com>
References : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
User-Agent : ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 22:36:07 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<
frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 3/17/2025 1:22 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Mar 16 23:01:50 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/16/2025 4:28 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
Education isn't an accomplishment, it's a tool.
>
It's both. Education can't be simply given to a person. It can be
greatly helped by a competent teacher, but the person still has to work
to achieve it. Doing that successfully is an accomplishment.
>
What's odd is that this discussion group has a few denizens who think
they can accomplish just as much without that tool.
>
In modern parlance, they actually are the tools.
So you're agreeing that an engineer can be self taught? I thought that you'd never agree to that!
>
I'm responding only because if I don't, you'll claim I said something I
didn't.
>
Can a person self-educate and become a licensed and officially
recognized engineer? AFAIK that's not possible.
>
Can a person learn enough stuff on his own to do some vaguely
engineering-related tasks and call himself an engineer? Yes, you seem to
have done that. But you were not an engineer, and the jobs you've
bragged about do not meet the definition of engineering.
>
Can a person give himself an engineering education equivalent to what
he'd get in an accredited engineering program, and be as effective and
versatile as a graduate of such a program? I'd say unless he's the
mental equivalent of Isaac Newton, his chances are very close to zero.
Maybe not absolute zero, but within one millionth of zero.
>
And you, Tom, are nowhere near intelligent enough to pull off such a feat.
It depends on the individual...
I knew of a guy with an engineering degree from an accredited
university who needed me to explain what a quadratic equation was and
how to apply it to electric generators' input output curves to
establish their most efficient combined loading. I had to build a
working model in Lotus for him.
He didn't last long in my world. I don't know what happened to him. He
might have become a teacher.
-- C'est bonSoloman