Re: Job Offer

On 3/17/2025 10:36 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 3/17/2025 1:22 PM, cyclintom wrote:

On Sun Mar 16 23:01:50 2025 Frank Krygowski  wrote:

On 3/16/2025 4:28 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

Education isn't an accomplishment, it's a tool.

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It's both. Education can't be simply given to a person. It can be
greatly helped by a competent teacher, but the person still has to work
to achieve it. Doing that successfully is an accomplishment.
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What's odd is that this discussion group has a few denizens who think
they can accomplish just as much without that tool.
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In modern parlance, they actually are the tools.

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So you're agreeing that an engineer can be self taught? I thought that you'd never agree to that!

 I'm responding only because if I don't, you'll claim I said something I didn't.
 Can a person self-educate and become a licensed and officially recognized engineer? AFAIK that's not possible.
 Can a person learn enough stuff on his own to do some vaguely engineering-related tasks and call himself an engineer? Yes, you seem to have done that. But you were not an engineer, and the jobs you've bragged about do not meet the definition of engineering.

Actually, the jobs he's bragged about do qualify as engineering. The issue is that tommy didn't really do those jobs.

 Can a person give himself an engineering education equivalent to what he'd get in an accredited engineering program, and be as effective and versatile as a graduate of such a program? I'd say unless he's the mental equivalent of Isaac Newton, his chances are very close to zero. Maybe not absolute zero, but within one millionth of zero.

I've worked with two exceptionally talented non-degreed engineers in my career, one electrical and one mechanical. It's quite rare, but it's possible.
I also have a rather amusing tale of a software engineer I worked with that didn't have an engineering degree or even any formal training other than some on-line courses. He went to college for music, and was a classically trained violinist. He had a friend who worked for a consulting firm and tossed some work his way, from there he ended up getting poached to work for Schneider Electric. So, he had a degree, but it wasn't in engineering - some would say that counts.

 And you, Tom, are nowhere near intelligent enough to pull off such a feat.
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Hey, he red out three liberrys!