Re: Job Offer

accredited engineering programOn Tue, 18 Mar 2025 07:22:33 -0400, Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 16:52:40 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 04:05:22 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
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I never said I though I was loved by God.On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 08:52:46 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:

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On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:06:55 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 3/17/2025 12:03 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 11:35:21 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
 

On 3/17/2025 11:07 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 3/17/2025 10:30 AM, AMuzi wrote:

On 3/16/2025 10:01 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 3/16/2025 4:28 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

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Education isn't an accomplishment, it's a tool.

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It's both. Education can't be simply given to a person.
It can be greatly helped by a competent teacher, but the
person still has to work to achieve it. Doing that
successfully is an accomplishment.
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What's odd is that this discussion group has a few
denizens who think they can accomplish just as much
without that tool.
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In modern parlance, they actually are the tools.
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I don't think it's binary or Manichean.  That is, both or
all can be true in different examples.
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Examples abound of both autodidacts with gaping holes in
their repertoire (me) and others who accomplished much
from the same background (Franklin).

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Benjamin Franklin was brilliant. It's been pointed out that
his science accomplishments alone would have won Nobel
Prizes had they existed.
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But any modern American is a fool if he says "Franklin was
great and he learned it all himself. So I don't need no
schooling."
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Right, that would be a logical leap in most cases.
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Still and all, situations, capacity, attitude and resources
vary so much that a certificate or a degree may not hold a
good return for everyone.
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Again this is the difference between education broadly and
certification specifically.  No one wants a heart surgeon or
structural engineer who sorta gets the general idea in his
field:
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-BpW_cM7iYc

 
I very clearly remember the moment when I reached awareness. It was in
fourth grade and I was assigned a couple of pages of long division,
which I was ordered to copy out of the book and "<LOL> solve....  I
did a couple and then it hit me. I know how to do this and doing it
over and over serves no purpose. That's when I started ignoring the
assignments and going ahead in the book on my own. I did very little
homework from that day on, but I did well on all the tests. The
ignorant teachers insisted on basing too much of the grades on the
"daily work, instead of simply how much was learned. I think it hurt
their feelings that I ignored their instructions.
 
Most of what I know, I learned by reading and experimenting. Yeah, I
know that wouldn't work for doctors, nurses, and dentists, but those
kinds of professions are too restrictive for me anyway.
 
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C'est bon
Soloman

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Good point, and you understand the difference. See also
airplane mechanics.

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"Most of what I know, I learned by reading and experimenting."
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Airplane mechanic?
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And the pilots don't complain? ():-)

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I never worked on an airplane, but I wrenched on cars and trucks and
boats and tractors and snowmobiles and motorcycles and bicycles. I
didn't need a school teacher for any of that.

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I am genuine,, Federal licensed, Airplane Mechanic (:-)  Air plane
mechanizing  is more a  matter of doing work correctly and maybe more
important not doing things wrong. For example there are limits on how
many and what sort welds can be made in a steel tube aircraft
fuselage. Or the correct process to weld an internal combustion engine
exhaust and so on and everything that might come loose has to be
secures with safety wire, or other safety system to avoid things
falling off in flight (Upsets the pilots greatly when parts start
falling off in flight  :-)
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I know a bit about piston engines in general, but there are many
variations and many I have not worked on.

I find motorcycle engines very interesting, there are parallel, boxer,
and offset V configurations and many different versions of each. My
Virago VTwin used a single crank pin like the Harley's but fired on
different rotations while the Harley's fired both on the same
rotation. They seemed very proud of their engines' unique sound and
pretend not to notice the resulting vibration. The early Norton vtwins
had offset crank pins to go with the offset V cylinders. They don't
make stuff like they used to make stuff.

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C'est bon
Soloman