Re: Job Offer

On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 07:32:06 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

On 3/18/2025 3:05 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

I never said I though I was loved by God.On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 08:52:46 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:

 

On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:06:55 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 3/17/2025 12:03 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 11:35:21 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 3/17/2025 11:07 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 3/17/2025 10:30 AM, AMuzi wrote:

On 3/16/2025 10:01 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 3/16/2025 4:28 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

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Education isn't an accomplishment, it's a tool.

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It's both. Education can't be simply given to a person.
It can be greatly helped by a competent teacher, but the
person still has to work to achieve it. Doing that
successfully is an accomplishment.
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What's odd is that this discussion group has a few
denizens who think they can accomplish just as much
without that tool.
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In modern parlance, they actually are the tools.
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I don't think it's binary or Manichean.  That is, both or
all can be true in different examples.
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Examples abound of both autodidacts with gaping holes in
their repertoire (me) and others who accomplished much
from the same background (Franklin).

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Benjamin Franklin was brilliant. It's been pointed out that
his science accomplishments alone would have won Nobel
Prizes had they existed.
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But any modern American is a fool if he says "Franklin was
great and he learned it all himself. So I don't need no
schooling."
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Right, that would be a logical leap in most cases.
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Still and all, situations, capacity, attitude and resources
vary so much that a certificate or a degree may not hold a
good return for everyone.
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Again this is the difference between education broadly and
certification specifically.  No one wants a heart surgeon or
structural engineer who sorta gets the general idea in his
field:
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-BpW_cM7iYc

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I very clearly remember the moment when I reached awareness. It was in
fourth grade and I was assigned a couple of pages of long division,
which I was ordered to copy out of the book and "<LOL> solve....  I
did a couple and then it hit me. I know how to do this and doing it
over and over serves no purpose. That's when I started ignoring the
assignments and going ahead in the book on my own. I did very little
homework from that day on, but I did well on all the tests. The
ignorant teachers insisted on basing too much of the grades on the
"daily work, instead of simply how much was learned. I think it hurt
their feelings that I ignored their instructions.
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Most of what I know, I learned by reading and experimenting. Yeah, I
know that wouldn't work for doctors, nurses, and dentists, but those
kinds of professions are too restrictive for me anyway.
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C'est bon
Soloman

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Good point, and you understand the difference. See also
airplane mechanics.

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"Most of what I know, I learned by reading and experimenting."
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Airplane mechanic?
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And the pilots don't complain? ():-)

 
I never worked on an airplane, but I wrenched on cars and trucks and
boats and tractors and snowmobiles and motorcycles and bicycles. I
didn't need a school teacher for any of that.
 
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C'est bon
Soloman

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I happen to know an FAA cert aircraft mechanic.  Training,
testing, certification and continuing education are quite
rigorous. (Moreso than for an attorney but less than for a
brain surgeon)

I hope the training and testing is rigorous. On the diesel for my
sailboat, it was "hmmm, how does that work." It had a water cooled
exhaust manifold that cracked and put water into one of the cylinders.
Damage was a bent push rod, which I straightened with a hammer on the
wood dock. Put it back together with a new manifold and head gasket,
changed the oil, and off I went. Damned Volvo parts were very
expensive. Eventually, I changed out that Volvo for a Yanmar. The
Volvo had a unique cooling water exchange system that got eaten up by
electrolysis no matter how much Zinc I attached to it. Marinas tend to
have a lot of spurious current around.

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C'est bon
Soloman