Re: Job Offer

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Sujet : Re: Job Offer
De : slocombjb (at) *nospam* gmail.com (John B.)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 18. Mar 2025, 14:20:42
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 07:34:49 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

On 3/18/2025 4:52 AM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 04:05:22 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
 
I never said I though I was loved by God.On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 08:52:46 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 12:06:55 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 3/17/2025 12:03 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Mon, 17 Mar 2025 11:35:21 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 3/17/2025 11:07 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/17/2025 10:30 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 3/16/2025 10:01 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 3/16/2025 4:28 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
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Education isn't an accomplishment, it's a tool.
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It's both. Education can't be simply given to a person.
It can be greatly helped by a competent teacher, but the
person still has to work to achieve it. Doing that
successfully is an accomplishment.
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What's odd is that this discussion group has a few
denizens who think they can accomplish just as much
without that tool.
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In modern parlance, they actually are the tools.
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I don't think it's binary or Manichean.  That is, both or
all can be true in different examples.
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Examples abound of both autodidacts with gaping holes in
their repertoire (me) and others who accomplished much
from the same background (Franklin).
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Benjamin Franklin was brilliant. It's been pointed out that
his science accomplishments alone would have won Nobel
Prizes had they existed.
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But any modern American is a fool if he says "Franklin was
great and he learned it all himself. So I don't need no
schooling."
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Right, that would be a logical leap in most cases.
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Still and all, situations, capacity, attitude and resources
vary so much that a certificate or a degree may not hold a
good return for everyone.
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Again this is the difference between education broadly and
certification specifically.  No one wants a heart surgeon or
structural engineer who sorta gets the general idea in his
field:
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-BpW_cM7iYc
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I very clearly remember the moment when I reached awareness. It was in
fourth grade and I was assigned a couple of pages of long division,
which I was ordered to copy out of the book and "<LOL> solve....  I
did a couple and then it hit me. I know how to do this and doing it
over and over serves no purpose. That's when I started ignoring the
assignments and going ahead in the book on my own. I did very little
homework from that day on, but I did well on all the tests. The
ignorant teachers insisted on basing too much of the grades on the
"daily work, instead of simply how much was learned. I think it hurt
their feelings that I ignored their instructions.
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Most of what I know, I learned by reading and experimenting. Yeah, I
know that wouldn't work for doctors, nurses, and dentists, but those
kinds of professions are too restrictive for me anyway.
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--
C'est bon
Soloman
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Good point, and you understand the difference. See also
airplane mechanics.
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"Most of what I know, I learned by reading and experimenting."
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Airplane mechanic?
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And the pilots don't complain? ():-)
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I never worked on an airplane, but I wrenched on cars and trucks and
boats and tractors and snowmobiles and motorcycles and bicycles. I
didn't need a school teacher for any of that.
 
I am genuine,, Federal licensed, Airplane Mechanic (:-)  Air plane
mechanizing  is more a  matter of doing work correctly and maybe more
important not doing things wrong. For example there are limits on how
many and what sort welds can be made in a steel tube aircraft
fuselage. Or the correct process to weld an internal combustion engine
exhaust and so on and everything that might come loose has to be
secures with safety wire, or other safety system to avoid things
falling off in flight (Upsets the pilots greatly when parts start
falling off in flight  :-)
 
 
+1
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Pilot can't just 'pull over and fix it' en route.

Well, they can, so to speak, "pull over" but are rather reluctant to
do so (:-)
--
Cheers,

John B.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
14 Mar 25 * Re: Job Offer410Frank Krygowski
14 Mar 25 +* Re: Job Offer386Zen Cycle
14 Mar 25 i+* Re: Job Offer383Zen Cycle
15 Mar 25 ii+* Re: Job Offer12John B.
15 Mar 25 iii+* Re: Job Offer2zen cycle
17 Mar 25 iiii`- Re: Job Offer1zen cycle
15 Mar 25 iii+* Re: Job Offer5AMuzi
15 Mar 25 iiii+- Re: Job Offer1John B.
15 Mar 25 iiii`* Re: Job Offer3Frank Krygowski
15 Mar 25 iiii +- Re: Job Offer1Jeff Liebermann
15 Mar 25 iiii `- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
16 Mar 25 iii+* Re: Job Offer2Jeff Liebermann
17 Mar 25 iiii`- Re: Job Offer1zen cycle
17 Mar 25 iii`* Re: Job Offer2zen cycle
18 Mar 25 iii `- Re: Job Offer1zen cycle
15 Mar 25 ii`* Re: Job Offer370Frank Krygowski
16 Mar 25 ii +* Re: Job Offer360Frank Krygowski
16 Mar 25 ii i`* Re: Job Offer359Catrike Ryder
16 Mar 25 ii i +* Re: Job Offer79AMuzi
16 Mar 25 ii i i+* Re: Job Offer77Jeff Liebermann
16 Mar 25 ii i ii+* Re: Job Offer45Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 25 ii i iii+* Re: Job Offer43Frank Krygowski
17 Mar 25 ii i iiii+- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 25 ii i iiii+* Re: Job Offer38AMuzi
17 Mar 25 ii i iiiii`* Re: Job Offer37Frank Krygowski
17 Mar 25 ii i iiiii +- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 25 ii i iiiii +* Re: Job Offer32AMuzi
17 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i`* Re: Job Offer31Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i `* Re: Job Offer30AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i  `* Re: Job Offer29John B.
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i   `* Re: Job Offer28Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    +* Re: Job Offer24John B.
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    i+* Re: Job Offer21Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii`* Re: Job Offer20Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii +* Re: Job Offer18John B.
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii i+* Re: Job Offer2Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii`- Re: Job Offer1Roger Merriman
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii i+* Re: Job Offer14Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii`* Re: Job Offer13Roger Merriman
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii +* Re: Job Offer4Rolf Mantel
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii i`* Re: Job Offer3Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii i `* Re: Job Offer2Rolf Mantel
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii i  `- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii +- Re: Job Offer1AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii `* Re: Job Offer7Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii  `* Re: Job Offer6AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii   +* Re: Job Offer2Zen Cycle
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii   i`- Re: Job Offer1AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii   +- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii   `* Re: Job Offer2Roger Merriman
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii ii    `- Re: Job Offer1AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii i`- Re: Job Offer1Rolf Mantel
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    ii `- Re: Job Offer1Roger Merriman
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    i`* Re: Job Offer2AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    i `- Re: Job Offer1John B.
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    +* Re: Job Offer2AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    i`- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii i    `- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii `* Re: Job Offer3Frank Krygowski
18 Mar 25 ii i iiiii  `* Re: Job Offer2Frank Krygowski
19 Mar 25 ii i iiiii   `- Re: Job Offer1Zen Cycle
18 Mar 25 ii i iiii`* Re: Job Offer3Frank Krygowski
18 Mar 25 ii i iiii +- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i iiii `- Re: Job Offer1zen cycle
17 Mar 25 ii i iii`- Re: Job Offer1Jeff Liebermann
17 Mar 25 ii i ii`* Re: Job Offer31Frank Krygowski
17 Mar 25 ii i ii +* Re: Job Offer29Jeff Liebermann
17 Mar 25 ii i ii i+* Re: Job Offer11John B.
17 Mar 25 ii i ii ii`* Re: Job Offer10Jeff Liebermann
17 Mar 25 ii i ii ii +- Re: Job Offer1Jeff Liebermann
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii `* Re: Job Offer8John B.
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii  `* Re: Job Offer7zen cycle
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   +* Re: Job Offer5John B.
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   i+* Re: Job Offer3zen cycle
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   ii`* Re: Job Offer2John B.
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   ii `- Re: Job Offer1AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   i`- Re: Job Offer1AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   `- Re: Job Offer1Jeff Liebermann
17 Mar 25 ii i ii i+* Re: Job Offer15AMuzi
17 Mar 25 ii i ii ii`* Re: Job Offer14Jeff Liebermann
17 Mar 25 ii i ii ii +- Re: Job Offer1AMuzi
17 Mar 25 ii i ii ii +- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 25 ii i ii ii `* Re: Job Offer11Shadow
17 Mar 25 ii i ii ii  `* Re: Job Offer10Jeff Liebermann
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   +- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   +* Re: Job Offer2Shadow
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   i`- Re: Job Offer1Jeff Liebermann
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii   `* Re: Job Offer6Frank Krygowski
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii    +- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii    `* Re: Job Offer4AMuzi
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii     `* Re: Job Offer3Roger Merriman
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii      `* Re: Job Offer2Shadow
18 Mar 25 ii i ii ii       `- Re: Job Offer1Roger Merriman
17 Mar 25 ii i ii i`* Re: Job Offer2Jeff Liebermann
18 Mar 25 ii i ii i `- Re: Job Offer1Jeff Liebermann
17 Mar 25 ii i ii `- Re: Job Offer1Catrike Ryder
17 Mar 25 ii i i`- Re: Job Offer1John B.
16 Mar 25 ii i `* Re: Job Offer279Jeff Liebermann
16 Mar 25 ii i  `* Re: Job Offer278AMuzi
17 Mar 25 ii i   `* Re: Job Offer277John B.
17 Mar 25 ii i    `* Re: Job Offer276Shadow
16 Mar 25 ii `* Re: Job Offer9Shadow
19 Mar 25 i`* Re: Job Offer2sms
15 Mar 25 +* Re: Job Offer19Frank Krygowski
17 Mar 25 `* Re: Job Offer4Jeff Liebermann

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