Re: Job Offer

On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:48:57 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
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On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 05:11:53 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
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On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 16:00:00 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
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On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 04:14:24 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
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On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 07:50:31 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 18:38:47 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
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On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 17:22:05 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 3/18/2025 4:55 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 3/18/2025 4:05 PM, AMuzi wrote:

On 3/18/2025 2:54 PM, Shadow wrote:

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    PS Not all monarchies are "bad" per se. As long as
they don't
steal too much and actually care for their "subjects".
    []'s

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I agree again.
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But with every system, there are degrees of plunder, death
and destruction. Some pursue mass murder, some are
horrible, others merely awful, some bearable.

 
And as always, I'll ask: So what's the solution?
 

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heh heh heh read some Marx! or any political philosopher.
The dialectic is eternal.
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It's perpetual conflict. Inherent to all human societies.
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In some cases civil and rhetorical, in others with a sword,
knout, secret police or what have you.
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Oh and don't discount 'civil and rhetorical' which can be
pernicious and severe. Per Alphonse Capone, "You can steal
more with a pen than a gun."  The modern applications of
that usually start with, "For the children...".

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No matter what kind of government, there will be at least one person
who wants to take control of everybody else... and believes it's only
right and proper that he does so.

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Never mind governments... in any group.
Frankie???

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It's a self esteem thing. When people take directions from someone
with low esteem it makes them feel important. It doesn't seem to
matter if the directions are forced on them as in schools, or
voluntary as in social groups.
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I think leaders are generally people with low esteem who need
followers to make them feel important.
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It's not, "I'm important so I will lead you." It's more likely, "I
need to feel important, so follow me."

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Sorry I can't agree with you, at least in all circumstances.
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Not many senior people in the military are weak kneaded, quite simply
because their responsibilities are already mapped out before hey get
the job."I appoint you as in charge of aircraft maintenance" and "if
the airplanes don't fly as scheduled you lose your job" while probably
not spoken is understood by both parties.

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"Leaders" in every category are forever striving to have more power
and get more control. I know that they believe they are "serving," but
that's a bullshit attempt to justify their need to feel important.

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You have obviously not been in the military as if you had you would
know that every job is strictly defined, responsibilities, superiors,
subordinates, and if you have any brain at all you know, when you
start, about how long you will have to serve in that position.
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As for feeling important, That goes with the job and again is a matter
of record - who you report to and who reports to you
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While I agree that three some people, like Frank, that are deathly
afraid if being thought "just another guy" It doesn't mean that
everyone is like that.

I agree, not everyone is like that. Apparently, many, perhaps most
people are like sheep. Controllers, OTOH are people who get off, so to
speak, by believing they are important.

Look at the politicians and the media heads and tell me they aren't
relishing their control over the sheeple.

Look at Krygowski. He can't force me to do what he wants me to do, so
he tries to control how I feel about myself, which isn't working,
either. The more he tries to shame me, the clearer it becomes that I
am the one in control of our interactions. All he can do is run and
hide.

The last resort of narcissists is to pretend to ignore the people they
can't control, but of course, narcissists can only pretend to do that.

--
C'est bon
Soloman