Sujet : Re: Job Offer
De : jeffl (at) *nospam* cruzio.com (Jeff Liebermann)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 22. Mar 2025, 02:11:13
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2025 18:42:31 GMT, cyclintom <
cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Wed Mar 19 22:08:56 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 09:37:40 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 11:36:03 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
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On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 09:15:20 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>
I never understood why some people like to watch people they don't
know play with their balls.... or ride their bicycles.
>
Sports are battle simulations much like the gladiatorial contests of
ancient Rome. The only difference is that the participants of today's
sports contests are more likely to survive. Bicycle races are similar
except the participants sometimes engage in limited combat.
<https://www.google.com/search?q=bicycle%20jousting&udm=2>
I think you over simplify.
I agree. I was in a hurry to leave for lunch with some friends and
did not have sufficient time to embellish my comments with details and
references. So, I just provided my main talking point and ran away.
I well remember tree climbing contests when
I was in grade school and the girls had rope skipping contests.
And the Olympic "games" that dated back to something like 770 BCE were
initially a religious affair.
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I believe it is more accurate to say that mankind has an inborn desire
to be first. In whatever activity, not solely war.
I agree. However, the form that this competition takes seem to
parallel similar forms found in warfare. For example, the early
Olympic competition featured athletic games that would all have been
useful in warfare. (Javelin, discus, long jump and hammer). I'm not
sure what you mean by "religious affair". Games and battles have
always included ceremonial requests that the gods provide the
participants with victory or survival.
"Day Three: Sacrifices (Hecatomb) and feast"
<https://www.open.edu/openlearn/history-the-arts/the-ancient-olympics-bridging-past-and-present/content-section-7>
We no longer sacrifice 100 bulls at the Olympic Games. Emptying the
treasury of the host city or country is a tolerable substitute.
Jeff, this is two thousand and twenty five years after Christ was born. My wife asked me what I thought she should work to accomplish before she died. She brough four children into the world raised six, taught hundreds, and has taught the Bible to church group after church group and asks me what she should accomplish?
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This is a Christian nation and we really don't need your assinnine comments about olympic games being designed to promote wars. Those were things you HAVE to know to keep your country safe. Because you don't have a country, in your mind, doesn't mean that others shouldn't. I believe that you should return to Poland or wherever and see how they treat people of your kind.
The original Olympic games were held between 776 BC and 393 AD. They
were not held in Israel where your savior might have commented on
their relevance. In my limited readings of the Torah and Tanakh, I
don't seem to recall mention of the Olympic games. I would be
interested in how you made that connection.
I never claimed that the Olympic games were designed to promote wars.
At the time, just about every tribe was at war with others. Select
your favorite biblical battle:
<
https://godsbreath.net/2013/01/15/list-of-bible-battles/>
What the Olympic games did was give those proficient in battle
exercises a way to test their expertise in a manner that didn't
involve killing someone. That is not promoting war.
I mentioned that the Olympic games included competition with javelin,
discus, long jump and hammer, all of which were weapons of war. Add
to the running, wrestling, and chariot racing, all of which are
involved in the warfare of the time. Today's games have changed
somewhat, but the warfare is still there. For example, football:
"Celebrating 150 Years of Simulated Warfare"
<
https://newrepublic.com/article/155608/american-football-violence-history>
Please note that I didn't mention your wife. That's because there is
no connection between your wife's educational and philanthropic
activities and the Olympic games or warfare.
Also, the US is not a Christian nation. I call to your attention the
separation of church and state in the 1st amendment.
"Separation of church and state in the United States"
<
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state_in_the_United_States>
For 2020
All Christian 74.2%
Non-religious 19.7%
Jewish 1.7%
Muslim 1.4%
Buddhists 1.3%
=========
Total 98.3%
I also call to your attention that the Christians of the US are split
by denomination and branch. Were the US to ever revolt and form a
theocracy, I suspect that most of these denominations and branches
will soon be at war with each other.
Trivia: World wide, there are about 45,000 Christian denominations:
<
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_denominations>
<
https://www.gordonconwell.edu/blog/christianity-is-fragmented-why/>
"We estimate that Christians are now found in nearly 45,000
denominations".
-- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.comPO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.comBen Lomond CA 95005-0272Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558