Sujet : Re: Helmet efficacy test
De : jeffl (at) *nospam* cruzio.com (Jeff Liebermann)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 26. Mar 2025, 00:54:45
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 19:50:06 GMT, cyclintom <
cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On Mon Mar 24 21:35:40 2025 Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 02:04:34 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
I haven't seen Keith since before I was injured so he wasn't marketing them under his name at that time.
You had a concussion in 2010.
<https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:6912346811772932096/>
"I got a severe concussion in 2010 that led to a type of seizures that
I didn't remember afterwards. This wasn't discovered and treated
properly until 2012 after 4 car wrecks luckily without any injuries"
Wavecel was founded in 2016. There is no way anyone associated with
Wavecel could or would talk to you about their product in 2010 because
it didn't exist in 2010. If the inventor(s) did a public disclosure
more than 12 months prior to when the patent was issued (2016), they
would risk having the invention considered as prior art.
Liebermann, we already know that you're missing a few rocks out of a full load. Is there some reason you cannot understand that I am recommending the Wavecel BECAUSE the old fashion foam helmet I was wearing didn't prevent traumatic brain injuries? Trek introduced me to the Wavecell in 2020. How does that fit your invention of time tables?
I am only interested in your claim to have "seen Keith since before I
was injured" which would be 2010, which presumably was when Keith
Bontrager told you all about Wavecel.
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https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:6912346811772932096/>
"I got a severe concussion in 2010 that led to a type of seizures that
I didn't remember afterwards. This wasn't discovered and treated
properly until 2012 after 4 car wrecks luckily without any injuries."
As far as the general public was concerned, there was no Wavecel
product prior to when it was founded and the patents were issued in
2016. The Wavecel founders would never risk having their patent
invalidated because of a "prior art" claim. Therefore, neither Keith
or the founders discussed the technology with you prior to 2016.
Whatever happened in 2020 is irrelevant.
-- Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.comPO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.comBen Lomond CA 95005-0272Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
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