Sujet : Re: Helmet efficacy test
De : am (at) *nospam* yellowjersey.org (AMuzi)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 26. Mar 2025, 19:33:52
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On 3/26/2025 1:31 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:
On 25 Mar 2025 20:00:21 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
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Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2025 11:11:14 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
wrote:
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On 3/25/2025 4:19 AM, floriduh dumbass wrote:
On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 21:20:38 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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Bicycling has never been a major source of serious traumatic brain
injury (TBI). On a nationwide basis, bicycling's contribution to TBI
counts is low enough to be off most "causes" charts. Bicycling causes
fewer then 1% of U.S. TBI deaths, far fewer than pedestrian travel, and
far fewer on a "per mile" basis. And historic data over the years shows
quite clearly that bicycle helmets are not preventing either fatalities
or concussions.
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Impossible to document that.
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Wrong, as usual.
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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7025438/
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https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-35728-x
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https://www.cpsc.gov/Newsroom/News-Releases/2021/New-CDC-Report-Finds-More-Adults-Are-Dying-from-Bicycle-Related-Accidents-CPSC-Says-it-Highlights-the-Importance-of-Helmets
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https://www.nsc.org/safety-first/bicycle-safety-statistics-may-surprise-you?srsltid=AfmBOoq4LC_IGLItTnDBXBm4Yu6K20nqSHjsZbqpkk-jQ2y4Y1J7hfbf
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https://biausa.org/public-affairs/media/keep-your-brain-safe-while-biking
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https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/150/3/e2022058878/188764/Helmet-Use-in-Preventing-Head-Injuries-in?autologincheck=redirected
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These all contradict Frank, but that isn't the point of this message.
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The point of this message is to point out, once again, your
unsubstantiated conclusions rooted in willful ignorance.
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How one would go about proving that bicycle helmets are not preventing
either fatalities or concussions?
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C'est bon
Soloman
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There are a few countries that have mandated helmets, such as Australia
which to the best of the knowledge the rate of injuries and extent didnt
change ie helmets at a population level made no difference, which is one of
the reasons it fails to get though legislation in uk when ever someone
tries a private bill.
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Roger Merriman
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???
https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2019/02/cycling-fatalities-almost-halved-since-introduction-of-mandatory
"The evidence is in: Australian mandatory helmet laws brought in to
reduce fatalities in cycling have worked, with a world-first study of
such laws at UNSW Sydney.... showing they led to an immediate 46% drop
in fatalities and have saved billions of dollars in medical costs
since 1990."
Note that they are comparing cycling fatalities per general population not
the rate of cyclists, note that Australia bar a covid boom, which has gone
now, that the rate of number of cyclists in the population has continued to
decline so absolutely cycle fatalities per population absolutely will be
down!
Are helmet laws purely to blame for the decline in cyclists? Probably not
Australia is very car centric, much more so than UK for example.
It’s very much poor political use of statistics!
Roger Merriman
In which case someone could well publish it as his own work!
-- Andrew Muziam@yellowjersey.orgOpen every day since 1 April, 1971
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