Re: Helmet efficacy test

Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 3/27/2025 9:45 AM, Rolf Mantel wrote:

Am 27.03.2025 um 14:36 schrieb Catrike Ryder:

On Thu, 27 Mar 2025 14:17:43 +0100, Rolf Mantel
<news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:
 

Am 27.03.2025 um 13:43 schrieb John B.:

On 27 Mar 2025 11:49:09 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
 

Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 3/26/2025 10:46 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 3/26/2025 3:32 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:

On 3/26/2025 12:06 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

 
On average, bicycling is safer than walking by all those
metrics. You
obviously don't believe that,

 
I don't? My, how kunich-esque of you.

 
Perhaps you should explicitly state your positions. As it is, you
now
seem to be implying that you do think bicycling is safer than
walking.
Yet you apparently think that bicyclists get great value from
special
protective hats, but pedestrians don't need them. Those two
points seem
inconsistent.
 
So am I misinterpreting your views? What exactly are your views?

 
My view is that helmets work. Wear them if you feel you need to extra
protection. Don't wear them if you don't feel that need.
 
 

I find them useful off road as bush protection if like myself one
rides the
path less traveled aka overgrown! So I can essentially use my the
helmet to
push through said bushes!
 
On road which for me largely is commuting, It provides eye
protection with
the visor from rain/hail and so on.
 
It’s also quite handy as sort of man bag to put one’s keys/gloves
etc at
cafe stop/shopping etc.
 
I have no expectations of protection from motor traffic nor does
population
studies seem to suggest that, bike infrastructure seems to do that ie
Amsterdam and similar cyclists have much lower rates and so on.
 
But UK isn’t likely to make this a legislation the hurdles to do so
are
large, so I don’t feel forced or otherwise to use one, after all
see plenty
of non helmeted cyclists about be they folks on hire bikes or some
utility
cyclists.
 
It’s such a non issue at least here.

 
I think my reason for wearing a helmet was best :-)
 
My wife mentioned one day, "I'd feel better if you wore a helmet", so
I went right out and  bought one. Which gave me a big edge in the next
husband-wife argument.... "Well! When you wanted me to wear a helmet I
did....." (:-])

 
My answer was "High visibility is even more important. What about I buy
a bright yellow Gore cycling top?", killing two birds with one stone ;-)

 
A hundred dollars for a shirt? I don't think so.

 
For a shirt that lasts 25 years that's value for money.
 

 
Paying more mony for a quality item - Pearl Izumi, Garneau, Rafa - pays
off in the long run. I have 30+ year-old shorts that I still commute in,
20+ year old jerseys, Mavic shoes pushing 20 years, all of which still
get regular use...well worth the extra cost.

Indeed the pay cheap pay twice comes to mind, I like the technical t
shirts, ie largely cut to a standard T shirt fit, slightly longer at rear,
and non cotton. I much prefer them over either Cotten t shirts or even
cheap “active” T shirts or cycling jerseys which I don’t like the tight
fitting nature. I’m sure it costs me some aero watts but I’m much more
comfortable so!

Roger Merriman