Re: Helmet efficacy test

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Sujet : Re: Helmet efficacy test
De : jeffl (at) *nospam* cruzio.com (Jeff Liebermann)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 04. Apr 2025, 00:41:27
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On Thu, 03 Apr 2025 15:31:03 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:

On Wed Apr 2 20:30:16 2025 Jeff Liebermann  wrote:
On Thu, 03 Apr 2025 01:59:43 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
 
But then since you don't believe in work,Liebermann must have looked it up and sent it to you.
 
Nope.  You can do your own research.  I was busy trying to determine
how you managed to have a "concussion", "crippling injury" or TBI in
2010 when your head never hit the ground.
 
03/25/2025
Message-ID: <1IAEP.752812$SZca.636071@fx13.iad>
My crippling injury occurred when I fell 2' at only 5 mph.
 
05/14/2010
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/Sgfdk0T4HlI/m/htJl6zQSimgJ>
"My CARBON fork collapsed about three months ago and planted me face
first onto the asphalt. The helmet never even touched the ground.  The
injuries caused are just beginning to clear up.  Thinking that a
helmet will give you much if any protection is completely nuts."
 
01/06/2023
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/K-cG5lehtd0/m/X3FtbYbXAAAJ>
"I am permanently disabled and so is the cop who managed to get me
back from the last step from death."
 
Plenty more strange cognitive effects found when searching for
"concussion":
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/search?q=concussion%20author%3Atom%20author%3Akunich>
>

1. Liebermann is the only person in the world that doesn't know that your face is part of your head!

I hope that you're not suggesting that your face is (or was) not part
of your head.  Does your helmet include a clear plastic face protector
or shield? 
<https://www.google.com/search?q=bicycle%20helmet%20face%20shield&udm=2>
Without a face shield, you have very little face protection.

2. Since this time I have seen the helmet I was wearing at the time and the entire forehead part of the foam helmet was entirely crushed.

That's mostly gibberish.  Kinda looks like you were making it up as
you went along and didn't bother to go back and fix your gibberish.
However, the last few words are clear enough.  Do you really expect
that a:
03/25/2025
Message-ID: <1IAEP.752812$SZca.636071@fx13.iad>
My crippling injury occurred when I fell 2' at only 5 mph.
would flatten whatever helmet you were wearing at the time?  This is
you with your helmet in Aug 2006.  Hmm... no face shield:
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/153690295@N06/53906740781/>
I'm trying to visualize your head and body position during a 2ft fall.
The would put your face about 3 inches below the "top" of the wheel.
That's rather odd because you also claimed that the Colnago carbon
fiber front fork self-disassembled causing your crash and assorted TBI
symptoms[1].  In order to "fall" from a height of 2 ft, you would have
had to fly over the handlebars and over the forks and land on the
roadway.  If that happened, your face would show signs of road rash,
even at 5 mph.  You haven't mentioned anything of the sort since the
accident in 2009.

3. Why do you suppose that poor unemployable Liebermann works so hard to prove me wrong that he is willing to misunderstand (or is it lying) everyuthing I say?

No supposition required.  I explained that I work so hard at
demonstrating your failures because I want ruin your reputation and
credibility in rec.bicycles.tech to the point where nobody will
believe anything you say.  I believe I've successfully accomplished
this task.  Say what you want or will.  Nobody will believe you.

Liebermann, no one but Flunky pays the slightest heed to you anymore. Why do you even bother posting?

Mental exercise.  It's great exercise reverse engineering your lies
and deducing what might really have happened.  It's as good as a
detective novel or TV who-done-it mystery.  I don't really need much
help, but it is useful to have others perform a sanity check on my
deductions and logic.


[1]  Various versions of the 2009 fork failure and crash as written by
Tom in 2016.  Notice that the first link seems to read that there were
TWO riders, both named Tom Kunich.

"Danger From Carbon Fiber Bikes"
<https://www.twospoke.com/threads/danger-from-carbon-fiber-bikes.17594/>
"On the way back to Castro Valley, my friend Tom Kunich (who was also
riding a full carbon fiber Colnago C-40) crashed on the downhill."
(July 10, 2016).
<https://www.cyclingforums.com/threads/danger-from-carbon-fiber-bikes.453355/>
(July 10, 2016).
<https://www.bikeforums.net/general-cycling-discussion/1073471-danger-carbon-fiber-bikes.html>
(July 10, 2016).
<https://medium.com/@cyclintom/on-dec-18-2009-i-was-riding-my-bicycle-with-a-group-and-we-were-coming-off-of-a-bicycle-trail-9f9d582a9b42>
(Dec 12, 2016).



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