Re: Future of online fora

On Thu, 3 Apr 2025 20:14:55 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

On 4/3/2025 7:02 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 4/3/2025 1:09 PM, AMuzi wrote:

On 4/3/2025 10:58 AM, cyclintom wrote:

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Frank, you have spent a great deal of your life being
subjective. Or should I say, strongly opinionated?

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WTF??
I consider 'strongly opinionated' to be a compliment.

 
As opposed to "All truth is subjective. All opinions are
valid. Nothing can be known. Ommmmmm....."   ;-)
 
 

You continually consistently and annoyingly misstate that.

Agreed.

To observe that personal opinions are, in fact, personal is
not to say that nothing is true.
>
But policy preferences from agreed undisputed facts are
areas for discussion and persuasion (or, in extremis,
coercion by those who could not prevail in argument).

This was duly noted by Friedrich Nietzsche in about 1886:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Nietzsche>
He postulated that "There are no facts, only interpretations". 

Nietzsche is difficult to understand without context.  I'm not going
to try to explain what he meant.  This discussion might help:
<https://www.reddit.com/r/Nietzsche/comments/bhywqw/what_does_nietzsche_mean_by_there_are_no_facts/>

Picking the nits and splitting the hairs:

To agree that the speed of light is constant

The speed of light is NOT constant because it slows down when it
masses through various substances.  It's only constant in a vacuum and
in the absence of a magnetic field.
"Scientists Slowed Down Light by 10,000 Times in an Experiment"
<https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-slowed-down-light-by-10000-times-in-an-experiment>

or that E=R/I

Ohms Law is E = I * R
or
voltage = resistance times current

or whatever has no bearing on policy preferences, which are
not truths, have no single answer and are inherently personal.

There was once a bill in the Indiana state legislature that attempted
to change Pi to something more geometrically convenient.  Fortunately,
it failed:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_pi_bill>
See first paragraph.  I seem to recall the tag line was something like
"Pi = 3.2 should be close enough for most purposes".

Oh, and there can never be a lack of such, as long as we
remain human.  Or as noted here recently, the dialectic is
eternal and cannot, by its nature, be permanently resolved.

There are an infinite number of wrong answers, but only a finite
number of correct answers.  By sheer weight of numbers, the wrong
answers are winning.

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