Re: Future of online fora

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Sujet : Re: Future of online fora
De : frkrygow (at) *nospam* sbcglobal.net (Frank Krygowski)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 04. Apr 2025, 18:44:29
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On 4/3/2025 9:14 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/3/2025 7:02 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/3/2025 1:09 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/3/2025 10:58 AM, cyclintom wrote:
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Frank, you have spent a great deal of your life being subjective. Or should I say, strongly opinionated?
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WTF??
I consider 'strongly opinionated' to be a compliment.
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As opposed to "All truth is subjective. All opinions are valid. Nothing can be known. Ommmmmm....."   ;-)
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 You continually consistently and annoyingly misstate that.
Sorry you're annoyed, but in interactions between two strongly opinionated people, I suppose it's common that one becomes annoyed. And it's more likely to be the one whose strongly held opinion is wrong.

To observe that personal opinions are, in fact, personal is not to say that nothing is true.
 But policy preferences from agreed undisputed facts are areas for discussion and persuasion (or, in extremis, coercion by those who could not prevail in argument).
As I see it, "policy preferences" are generally opinions on the outcomes of proposed policies. And those certainly can be correct or wrong.
There was once a policy preference for invading Iraq. As I recall, the prediction was that the Iraqis would welcome us with flowers. That turned out to be very wrong.
There was and still is some policy preference for lowering taxes (the Laffer Curve) as a way to increase government income and lower deficits. That was very wrong - although many are carefully ignoring proven history and still pushing it. (I suspect they don't really believe it, but want personal benefits for themselves and their wealthy allies.)
And back to opinions as opposed to policies: For a long time there were opinions strongly expressed in this group that bike frames that restricted tire sizes to 23mm were significantly faster. I think few now believe that opinion was true.

To agree that the speed of light is constant or that E=R/I or whatever has no bearing on policy preferences, which are not truths, have no single answer and are inherently personal.
Some things are correct, some things are wrong. E is not equal to R/I.
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- Frank Krygowski

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3 Apr 25 * Future of online fora93AMuzi
3 Apr 25 +* Re: Future of online fora86John B.
3 Apr 25 i+* Re: Future of online fora3Frank Krygowski
3 Apr 25 ii`* Re: Future of online fora2AMuzi
3 Apr 25 ii `- Re: Future of online fora1Catrike Ryder
3 Apr 25 i+* Re: Future of online fora40Frank Krygowski
3 Apr 25 ii+* Re: Future of online fora23Frank Krygowski
3 Apr 25 iii+- Re: Future of online fora1Roger Merriman
3 Apr 25 iii`* Re: Future of online fora21AMuzi
3 Apr 25 iii +* Re: Future of online fora19Frank Krygowski
3 Apr 25 iii i`* Re: Future of online fora18Catrike Ryder
4 Apr 25 iii i `* Re: Future of online fora17Frank Krygowski
4 Apr 25 iii i  `* Re: Future of online fora16Catrike Ryder
4 Apr 25 iii i   `* Re: Future of online fora15AMuzi
4 Apr 25 iii i    `* Re: Future of online fora14Catrike Ryder
4 Apr 25 iii i     `* Re: Future of online fora13Frank Krygowski
4 Apr 25 iii i      `* Re: Future of online fora12Catrike Ryder
5 Apr 25 iii i       `* Re: Future of online fora11Frank Krygowski
5 Apr 25 iii i        +- Re: Future of online fora1Catrike Ryder
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5 Apr 25 iii i         `* Re: Future of online fora8Catrike Ryder
5 Apr 25 iii i          `* Re: Future of online fora7Roger Merriman
5 Apr 25 iii i           +- Re: Future of online fora1Catrike Ryder
5 Apr 25 iii i           +* Re: Future of online fora4sms
5 Apr 25 iii i           i`* Re: Future of online fora3Catrike Ryder
5 Apr 25 iii i           i `* Re: Future of online fora2Frank Krygowski
5 Apr 25 iii i           i  `- Re: Future of online fora1Catrike Ryder
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3 Apr 25 ii+- Re: Future of online fora1AMuzi
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3 Apr 25 iii+- Re: Future of online fora1Catrike Ryder
4 Apr 25 iii`* Re: Future of online fora12Frank Krygowski
4 Apr 25 iii +* Re: Future of online fora8AMuzi
4 Apr 25 iii i+* Re: Future of online fora2Jeff Liebermann
4 Apr 25 iii ii`- Re: Future of online fora1Catrike Ryder
4 Apr 25 iii i+- Re: Future of online fora1Catrike Ryder
4 Apr 25 iii i+- Re: Future of online fora1sms
4 Apr 25 iii i`* Re: Future of online fora3Frank Krygowski
4 Apr 25 iii i +- Re: Future of online fora1AMuzi
4 Apr 25 iii i `- Re: Future of online fora1Catrike Ryder
4 Apr 25 iii `* Re: Future of online fora3Catrike Ryder
4 Apr 25 iii  `* Re: Future of online fora2Jeff Liebermann
4 Apr 25 iii   `- Re: Future of online fora1Catrike Ryder
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6 Apr 25 i `* Re: Future of online fora41John B.
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7 Apr 25 i  `* Re: Future of online fora39Radey Shouman
7 Apr 25 i   +* Re: Future of online fora37Catrike Ryder
7 Apr 25 i   i`* Re: Future of online fora36AMuzi
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8 Apr 25 i   i      i`* Re: Future of online fora27zen cycle
8 Apr 25 i   i      i +* Re: Future of online fora20John B.
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8 Apr 25 i   i      i ii`* Re: Future of online fora17John B.
8 Apr 25 i   i      i ii `* Re: Future of online fora16Zen Cycle
8 Apr 25 i   i      i ii  `* Re: Future of online fora15John B.
8 Apr 25 i   i      i ii   +* Re: Future of online fora13Zen Cycle
9 Apr 25 i   i      i ii   i`* Re: Future of online fora12John B.
9 Apr 25 i   i      i ii   i `* Re: Future of online fora11zen cycle
9 Apr 25 i   i      i ii   i  `* Re: Future of online fora10John B.
9 Apr 25 i   i      i ii   i   `* Re: Future of online fora9Zen Cycle
10 Apr 25 i   i      i ii   i    `* Re: Future of online fora8John B.
10 Apr 25 i   i      i ii   i     +* Re: Future of online fora2AMuzi
10 Apr 25 i   i      i ii   i     i`- Re: Future of online fora1John B.
10 Apr 25 i   i      i ii   i     `* Re: Future of online fora5zen cycle
10 Apr 25 i   i      i ii   i      +* Re: Future of online fora2Catrike Ryder
10 Apr 25 i   i      i ii   i      i`- Re: Future of online fora1John B.
10 Apr 25 i   i      i ii   i      `* Re: Future of online fora2John B.
10 Apr 25 i   i      i ii   i       `- Re: Future of online fora1Zen Cycle
8 Apr 25 i   i      i ii   `- Re: Future of online fora1Roger Merriman
8 Apr 25 i   i      i i`- Re: Future of online fora1Catrike Ryder
8 Apr 25 i   i      i `* Re: Future of online fora6Jeff Liebermann
8 Apr 25 i   i      i  +* Re: Future of online fora3Zen Cycle
8 Apr 25 i   i      i  i+- Re: Future of online fora1Catrike Ryder
8 Apr 25 i   i      i  i`- Re: Future of online fora1Jeff Liebermann
8 Apr 25 i   i      i  +- Re: Future of online fora1Catrike Ryder
8 Apr 25 i   i      i  `- Re: Future of online fora1John B.
8 Apr 25 i   i      `- Re: Future of online fora1Shadow
8 Apr 25 i   `- Re: Future of online fora1John B.
3 Apr 25 `* Re: Future of online fora6Roger Merriman
3 Apr 25  `* Re: Future of online fora5AMuzi
3 Apr 25   `* Re: Future of online fora4Roger Merriman
3 Apr 25    +* Re: Future of online fora2AMuzi
3 Apr 25    i`- Re: Future of online fora1Roger Merriman
7 Apr 25    `- Re: Future of online fora1Zen Cycle

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