Re: Tariffs and bikes

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Sujet : Re: Tariffs and bikes
De : Soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Ryder)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 05. Apr 2025, 09:02:46
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On Fri, 4 Apr 2025 20:10:02 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

On 4/4/2025 6:50 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 20:34:00 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
 
On Fri, 04 Apr 2025 21:42:58 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
I have to wonder why only the real losers in the world have to change real facts to fit their narative.
Do you suppose that they really think that it was Trump that invented tariffs?
>
LOL. No tariffs (also known as taxes paid only by consumers) exist for
thousands of years. They were the main cause of the great depression
at the beginning of the last century. The American economy "broke",
and took down the economies of its allies.
>
Trump as probably the first American President to use tariffs to
manipulate the market and make billions buying cheap and selling high
and betraying pension funds and small investors. Him and his
billionaire buddies, Maybe that's what you a referring to.
>
Do you suppose these olittle closet communists reall think that taxing the rich is a good idea?
>
Basically, it was what the "New Deal" was all about. America grew so
much that by the 60's - 70's it produced 60% of ALL industrial
products in the world. That is the maximum America has ever produced.
Millionaires were taxed > 80% on their earnings. They had to work hard
and employ a lot to expand their businesses and continue rich.
>
>
Then they complain that they can't get a job aned want the government to support them.
>
The "New Deal" collapsed when Reagan removed taxes from the rich and
shifted them on to the working class and pensioners. And now China is
the World's #1 economy.... there are more homeless and unemployed
(percentage-wise, obviously) in the US than in China.
>
PS If you're interested in pro-market right wing publications, read
this month's "The Economist". They are not perfect, in fact I'd call
them classic repuglicans, but are not usually wrong in their
predictions...
>
Oh, I forgot. "The Economist" is a British product. You probably can't
afford it any more...
[]'s
 
Oh my goodness.... We're all gonna die....
 
--
C'est bon
Soloman
>
We most assuredly shall!
>
As Mr Franklin famously wrote, that, and taxes, are certainties.

An experience for sure. I wouldn't miss it for all the tea in China.

--
Non, je ne regrette..
Soloman 
(Appologies to Edith)

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