Re: RE: Re: Tariffs and bikes

On 4/6/2025 12:25 PM, cyclintom wrote:

On Sun Apr 6 12:59:52 2025 Frank Krygowski  wrote:

On 4/6/2025 8:13 AM, John B. wrote:

On Sun, 6 Apr 2025 07:46:16 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
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Exceptions abound within all non-white or non-male examples. This in no
way affects the facts around institutionalized racism in this country.

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Although perhaps not as obvious but what is basically "racism" exists
in many societies. As an example, here (Thailand) Americans are
generally considered rather stupid and are normally over charged.

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I agree that racism is extremely common throughout the world. I once
read that human societies (from tribes up to nations) tend to welcome
single foreigners as interesting temporary visitors, but tend to get
much more skeptical when, say, clusters show up to move in. And when
larger numbers arrive, it's treated as an "invasion."
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The U.S. is an oddball country. Its origin was based on (mostly
inadvertently) killing off the aboriginals, leaving much of the land
unclaimed; then on importing (mostly) Europeans in wave after wave to
make productive use of the land.
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But each new wave went through the "invasion" gauntlet. "No Irish Need
Apply" and all that. But most - Irish, German, Italian, Polish, etc. -
were eventually able to blend in.
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Those of African origin could not blend in unless they were white enough
to "pass." They're still considered part of an "invasion." And yes, that
attitude has been in our institutions for a long, long time.

    Frank I would mostly agree with you but blacks are a special case. The Irish were the first slaves of the English which comprised the initial settlers. Blacks are only significant because they were the LAST slaves and it took a civil war to free them whereupon the Democrats reassumed power and installed everything except outright slavery again. California was more or less exempt from discrimination except from the English elite in power here but the common man in California never went for it.
 Indians were hunter/gatherers and required huge tracks of land to maintain small tribes. They considered farmers to be encroaching on their land which led to wars with the different tribes who fibnally were forced to surrender. They were then GIVEN their rights rather than keeping them from before European settlers. A few east coast tribes considered the very small numbers of initial settlers to be interesting and odd and learned that the ways of farmingf and ranching required a lot less work to survive qand copied them effectively turning them into Europeans themselves.
 This business of wars in virtually every place in the world could have and should have been avoided had they listened to the conservatives rather than the extremists.

"Blacks are only significant because they were the LAST slaves"
Not the last any any means.  Slavery is popular again.
We currently have an epidemic of enslaved people in US and worldwide. And growing. In USA they are primarily young central/south American women and girls but boys as well.
https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/24-02934-TIP_Factsheet-Western-Hemisphere-Region_508-Accessible-8.13.2024.pdf
https://hopeforjustice.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/USA-MSHT-Briefing-Document-Updated-May-2024-1.pdf
"On any given day, there are 1,091,000 people living in conditions of modern-day slavery in the
USA"
https://womenonguard.com/statistics/human-trafficking/
Roughly 28 million people worldwide as we write.
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