Re: Tariffs and bikes

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Sujet : Re: Tariffs and bikes
De : am (at) *nospam* yellowjersey.org (AMuzi)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 07. Apr 2025, 14:16:16
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On 4/7/2025 6:12 AM, zen cycle wrote:
On 4/6/2025 5:00 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Apr 6 19:03:58 2025 Roger Merriman  wrote:
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Most countries apply some tariffs on most goods, but since tariffs are paid
by the countries population, it?s normally low as your voters are paying
the tariffs.
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You are aware you?re going to paying for the tariffs yes? Particularly with
your Aliexpress etc parts and what not! And if you really do have money in
the market that has lost value and is continuing to do so.
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As per my last post this isn?t going to end well!
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A tariff is to place a finger on the scale. If you can get cheaper components locally you do so. But the USA has for too long carried little or no tarriffs. Now we simply match your tariffs.
 Until a few days ago, the US and Australia had a free trade agreement, so they had no tariffs on US imports at all.
 https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/uploads/agreements/fta/ australia/asset_upload_file148_5168.pdf
 See chapter 2, section B
 The only product with any restrictions was american beef, which was agreed to in that treaty.
 Now, the US has imposed a 10% tariff to account for the trade imbalance. Funny thing though, is that Australia has a trade deficit to the US.
 https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/southeast-asia-pacific/ australia
"The U.S. goods trade surplus with Australia was $17.9 billion in 2024, a 1.6 percent increase ($279.7 million) over 2023."
 
This does NOT mean that China will not still have cheaper parts because they can and will drop tariffs to zero.
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You do not have sufficient financial training to understand the complexity of international trade and I doubt you are any more in it than to read doomsday headlines written by the Slime Stream Media and to take them seriously.
  lol...So "china can drop the tariffs to zero" means somehow they can completely avoid the US tariffs? and the US has had little or no tarrifs? And Roger is the one who doesn't understand international trade?
 I'd take Rogers understanding of international trade over yours any day.
 
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Tell me what you think that taeffs did to GB? Why would they do any difference here?For instance, it would be far cheaper to ship Rover components here and assemble the final product here and avoid tariffs altog4ether.
 > The only thing it would cost is the inicial outlay which could be avoided by conjtracting local builders like Chrysler or Chevrolet.
 Hey, dumbass, the tariffs are on parts as well.
 
This is how I became an engineer. By imagining what others could not.
 Sure, like cables are tested with PWM, aluminum oxide is flammable, a dent can pop out of a top tube by riding the bike.
 
Look at what Flunky and Liebermann post! They are blithering idiots. Flunky is so important he doesn't do any work. Liebermann so brilliant that it took him 6 years to get a four year degree and could only work as a technician. I have my opinions about Frank but not because he is stupid but because he is to lazy and incapable of waiting to earn promotion by working for them. His comments about helmets and taking the lane were nothing more than cheap shots at me. I don't mind personal attacks . They can even be fun when they make the perpitrator look silly.
 well, talk about being important. As far as I remember the discussions about taking the lane were with the floriduh dumbass and the recent discussion on helmets was between me a frank - but now it was all about you? Hmmm....Maybe I've been wrong all this time and the floriduh dumbass _isn't_ the biggest narcissist here.
 
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I am not an expert but my customers in Australia pay what we USAians would call exorbitant duty to claim my shipments to them. I'd like some better statement from an actual Australian if we still have some here on RBT.
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Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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