Sujet : Re: Ebay prices
De : funkmasterxx (at) *nospam* hotmail.com (zen cycle)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.techDate : 09. Apr 2025, 11:30:21
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On 4/9/2025 12:04 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 08 Apr 2025 18:29:26 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
On Tue, 8 Apr 2025 13:06:16 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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On 4/7/2025 2:01 PM, cyclintom wrote:
On Sun Apr 6 19:12:56 2025 Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/6/2025 6:04 PM, cyclintom wrote:
Yesterday, I was fixing flats on three different bikes. I went up to Robinson's and picked up some new tubes because the flats are all pin holes and I've never successfully repaired those. I fix one hole and another appears 3 inchs away. Nothing in the tire.
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Wow. So many problems!
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So now Frank is telling us that he never gets flats.
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Not at all, Tom! I've described here getting something like three flats
within 15 miles. I've described other flats as well. Flats are a normal
part of bicycling.
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But I do know how to successfully fix flats. Your "I've never
successfully repaired those. I fix one hole and another appears 3 inchs
away." is very, very unusual.
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If there's a piece of fine wire in the tire repairing the
inner tube will not prevent a flat a few minutes later.
Fine wire is very common in our asphalt, which is made of
recycled truck/car tires (plus other stuff). It's the tires that have
those nasty stainless steel wires.
I always run my finger round the inside of the tire before
replacing the repaired inner tube. I usually simultaneously find the
culprit and puncture my finger..
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Ouch. I use a small cotton ball for locating splinters. It should
also work for steel wires.
Examples:
<https://www.bikeforums.net/17442640-post6.html>
(from Sheldon Brown):
<https://www.sheldonbrown.com/flats.html#tireinspection>
I'm not quite ready to become a believer but it's a start.
I ran some crude tests to see what it would take to manually force a
thin wire through a bicycle tire and tube. I started with the wire
perpendicular to the tire. If the wire was to thin, it would buckle
as soon as it touched the tire. Same if the wire arrived at an angle,
same buckling.
A heavier wire would buckle less but unless the wire was really stiff,
it would not break the surface of the tire. I could almost push a
sharpened bicycle spoke through the tread, but anything that was
moderately flexible would buckle before penetrating. If someone has a
way to demonstrate how a wire from an automobile tire might penetrate
the bicycle tire and tube, I want to try it.
The use of recycled tires for Rubber Modified Asphalt (RMA) was also
mentioned. Supposedly, the steel is removed from the shredded tire by
magnetic separation:
"Maximizing metal removal in rubber tire recycling"
<https://www.recyclingproductnews.com/article/33699/maximizing-metal-removal-in-rubber-tire-recycling>
"Steel-belted tires a source for flats"
<https://rayhosler.wordpress.com/2016/05/15/steel-belted-tires-a-source-for-flats/>
"A vibratory feeder feeds rubber crumb onto a high intensity magnetic
field of the head pulley, pulling out tiny wires that may still be
embedded in the crumb rubber material. This results in an extremely
pure product."
I can tell you from personal experience that tiny wire bits do in fact manage to work their way through a bike tire. I get at least one flat a year that way.