Re: Tariffs and bikes

On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 06:55:43 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 4/12/2025 10:02 AM, AMuzi wrote:

On 4/12/2025 8:20 AM, zen cycle wrote:

On 4/11/2025 6:56 PM, AMuzi wrote:

On 4/11/2025 2:49 PM, Shadow wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2025 15:43:43 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
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Vegetable farmers in California have been driven into bankruptcy by
the Democrat administration quite a few who had been growing
vegetablkes for generations committed suicide when Gavin Loathsome
cut off their water.

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    LOL
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    Can I quote you on that? PS I'll need sources so I don't look
like a fool.
    Sources pls.
    []'s

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As with many comments from Mr Kunich there is actually a truth in
there. Someplace.
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Over 50 years ago, long before the present Governor, nuisance
lawsuits stopped construction of TVA Tellico Dam, which was the
beginning of the end for sane water management.
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https://www.tva.com/about-tva/our-history/built-for-the- people/
telling- the-story-of-tellico-it-s-complicated
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and although that project was in fact completed eventually, the
larger issues (humans vs baitfish) festered:
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https://www.ocregister.com/2014/03/22/tom-campbell-how-to- get-water-
flowing-again-in-california/
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with one smaller-than-bait-fish after another invoking precedent
(snail darter, delta smelt, whatever), water management became
focused away from human nourishment.
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Starting 20? 25? odd years ago, the powers that be (EPA, CalEPA, etc)
decided that fresh water running into San Francisco Bay was
absolutely critical to the survival of the delta smelt and blocking
water projects or removing dams was not sufficient for the small
fish. Having made that a priority, water rights tied to deeds in the
Central Valley, which was highly productive land for dense vegetable
farming, were abrogated. Farms which had used sluice gates to
irrigate for nearly a hundred years were cut off. That's been a
rolling crisis for years and is recently exacerbated by new limits on
pumping groundwater. Farmers cannot pump water on their own land!
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Ag production has been devastated, unemployment and land values have
gone in different directions and, despite ample rainfall in 2023 and
again in 2024:
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https://engaging-data.com/california-precipitation-levels/
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the water goes right past Mr Kunich's house into the Bay.

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Well, that's one distorted opinion. Here's another:
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https://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/2023/02/01/california- water-crisis/
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"Almond empires, alfalfa exporters, mega-dairies, and oil and gas
operators use millions of gallons of California’s limited water during
times of intense dryness to amass tremendous profits, while local
wells run dry. And as these private interests guzzle down the water
supply, more than 1 million people in California do not have access to
safe drinking water."
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Both can be true and both sorta are true.
 
Wasting huge volumes of water straight into San Francisco Bay is not a
helpful policy, not for farmers nor anyone else. Contract abrogation in
denying deeded water rights to ag landowners left groundwater pumping,
which is we agree another problem now.
 
There haven't been any major California water control/storage/
redirection projects in 50 years, despite oodles of 'project studies'
and compelling need.  This is a turnaround from the 100 prior years,
when large scale water management was crucial to development and not
only to ag production directly.
 
As a side note, this is not only a California problem although the
nature of that area, with periodic droughts, make it 'newsy'.  Our total
national hydroelectric power generation is lower than 60, 70 years ago.
How does that make any sense?

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It makes perfect sense to the fossil fuel companies.

Environmental and social activists are one reason why there aren't
more hydro power stations and why some are being taken down.

"large dams carry a number of social and environmental concerns."
https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/why-arent-we-looking-more-hydropower

https://enviroliteracy.org/how-does-hydroelectric-power-affect-the-environment/

https://blogs.edf.org/energyexchange/2019/11/15/long-considered-a-clean-energy-source-hydropower-can-actually-be-bad-for-climate/
 

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C'est bon
Soloman