Re: RE: Re: rec tech mower

On 4/14/2025 12:20 PM, cyclintom wrote:

On Fri Apr 11 23:41:58 2025 Jeff Liebermann  wrote:

On Sat, 12 Apr 2025 13:05:24 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
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(chomp)

As an aside, most of the problems with small engines being stored for
long periods of time can be caused by the fact that much "Gas Station"
gas contains Ethanol. It's worth it to search for "pure gasoline" gas.
https://www.buyrealgas.com/states.html
https://www.pure-gas.org/

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True.  Here's a video that explains what's happening:
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"The Ugly Truth Why Gas Station Fuel Is Bad For Small Engines"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvps2gF0Sdo>
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I wasted some time and effort trying to remove the ethanol from retail
gasoline.  It can be done, but the results are not very good.  The
problem is that ethanol is an octane booster.  Take away the ethanol
and the octane rating of the gas goes down.  If I start with regular,
the octane rating ends up so low that the engine might knock.
Actually, modern engines change the timing advance so that the engine
just barely knocks.  It doesn't ping and sorta runs, but not very
well.
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I believe that some airfields that cater to old fashioned propeller
airplanes may also stock it.

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<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avgas#93UL_(Ethanol-free_93AKI_automotive_gasoline)>
Ethanol free gas in a car probably won't hurt the car engine. However,
there is no authoritative consensus as to whether it's a good or bad
idea.  Try sampling some articles on the topic:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=using%20ethanol%20free%20avgas%20in%20car>
I have little experience and no opinion.

    Middle grade gasoline doesn't have ethanol in it. So I use that.

https://www.energy.ca.gov/data-reports/energy-almanac/transportation-energy/california-gasoline-data-facts-and-statistics
"Gasoline sold in California at retail is made up of 90 percent petroleum based gasoline (as specified by the California Air Resources Board) and 10 percent ethanol."

Also for the laewn mower. And many states do not allow ethanol in gasolinr brcause it damages engines.

There are no state bans for ethanol use. There has been som legislation proposed in a few states, but there is nothing in place now.
You're thinking of E85, which is illegal to use unless the engine has been specifically designed for it.
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