Re: No more gatrade

On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 16:13:00 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
 

On 4/15/2025 3:44 PM, Zen Cycle wrote:

On 4/15/2025 3:27 PM, Mark J cleary wrote:

On 4/15/2025 11:56 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 22:02:16 +0700, John B.
<slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 09:19:48 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
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Thi morning I read where Pepsico is going to meet with
DEI freaks
including the racist jackass, Al Sharpton, and it
convinced me to do
what I've been contemplating for months. From now on,
I'll not be
putting any gatorade (Pepsico product) into my water
bottles.
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There's too much sugar in Gatorade, anyway. Yesterday,
I drank four
and half bottles of it, each with 32 grams of sugar. I
tried Nuun
tablets a few years back and I think I'll try them again.

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Are you drinking the stuff for energy or as a water
replacement? I
used to use one of the packaged drinks and mixed it 1/2
to 1 with
water.

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MOstly, I wanted the electrolites.
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I bought individual packets. I was mixing one packet to
24 oz of
water. I think the packets were for 16 oz so I was mixing
them lighter
than reccomended. I finish the rides on a sugar high.
Not good.
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-- C'est bon
Soloman

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My Gatorade story and the only one goes back to the hot
Chicago Marathon of 1989. It was 63 degrees at starting
line and by mile 20 on Lake Shore drive in the sun was in
80's. I had never trained using gatorade only drinking
water. So I think well I better drink this stuff due to
the heat. Completely wrong never do something on race day
you have not already trained and know what  happens.

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Exactly. Volumes have been written on acclimatizing "race
day" diets.
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Gatorade must have messed up my system and I got pretty
tired and worn the last 10k. My time was 3:23 and I should
have even in the heat run the marathon in 3:15. I got to
the finish and it took me 40 minutes to stand up. A friend
of mine said I was out of sugar in the body. Gave me a
real can of Coke no diet Coke. Drank the the Coke and in
minutes was fine got up went home.
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Moral was I think Gatorade caused my body to process
glycogen differently than normal and depleted it. It also
taste nasty and I have never had a drop of Gatorade since
that day.

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It isn't likely that you ran out of sugar, rather, it
probably created an electrolyte imbalance which didn't allow
you to process water (and possibly glycogen) the way you
were used to it.
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Once you stopped exercising your body processes stabilized*.
Pretty much any sugary drink (even more gatorade, if you
weren't ready to puke at the sight of it) would have worked.
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*In exercise physiology this stability is known as Homeostasis
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It's also known that too much sugar in your stomach while
exercising can reduce the water and electrolyte uptake from
your stomach. "gut training" is the new thing in endurance
sports training.
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https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28332114/
#:~:text=It%20is%20clear%20that%20%22nutritional%20training%22%20can,which%20it%20will%20be%20required%20to%20function.
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It was warm and the day before the Marathon I weight 178
pounds after topping of the body with final meal get
glycogen stores full. Then night I got home from the
Marathon, after eating dinner and drinking to replenish
the body I weighed 171  pounds. During the race of course
I drank a lot so I must have really dropped serious weight.
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No gatorade.
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Gatorade in 1989 was very different than today's
formulation. The original gatorade developed at the
University of Florida back in the 70s used cane sugar, and
not very much of it. The focus was much more on electrolyte
replacement to the point that it had a slightly salty taste
and very little sweetness. By the late 80's they had
switched to HFCS so it was sicky sweet. Today's gatorade has
a much higher sugar content than it did back then, and it's
also a different type. These days it depends on which
variant you buy, but they list it generically as sugar with
varying amounts of dextrose, and it can be anywhere from 12
g to 30 g of sugar per serving (except for the 0 sugar
options of course, but...artificial sweeteners....blech)
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For a while I was drinking regular Gatorade cut 1/2 1/2 with
water (straight gatorade is way too sweet) until I found a
formula in a triathlon forum  I make at home.
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Mix in a 2 qt container of water:
- 1/4 cup of honey
- 1/4 cup of lemon juice concentrate
- 1 teaspoon of electrolyte powder (https://
drinkfastfuel.com/products/fast-fuel-electrolyte-drink-mix)
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Essentially it's homemade lemonade with electrolyte powder,
cut to a light sugar concentration. With the electrolyte
powder it tastes quite a bit like the original gatorade
before they started adding all the sugar.
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Did you ever drink Gookinade from Bill Gookin?

 It appears to have 21 grams of sugure.  That's still too much
--
C'est bon
Soloman