Re: Helmet efficacy test

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Sujet : Re: Helmet efficacy test
De : funkmaster (at) *nospam* hotmail.com (Zen Cycle)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 18. Apr 2025, 16:29:41
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On 4/18/2025 5:37 AM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 05:01:10 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
 
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 20:45:49 -0400, zen cycle
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
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On 4/17/2025 6:01 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/17/2025 7:44 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 07:39:11 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 4/17/2025 3:20 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 09:03:46 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 11:05:14 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 20:39:54 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
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On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 07:42:59 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
wrote:
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On 4/15/2025 9:02 PM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 14:46:46 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 12:20:51 -0500, AMuzi
<am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 4/15/2025 12:15 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/15/2025 8:56 AM, AMuzi wrote:
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But here, the rise in anti-vax was driven by upper class
suburban mothers and Hollywood celebrities who skew soft
left.  (as with any social phenomenon there are of course
many flavors of opinion and politics)  It was unusual
before that quack Wakefield (1998?) but snowballed after
that.
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The anti-vax movement was driven by ignorant anti-
scientists. Yes, it's bounced around the political spectrum,
but the often deliberate ignorance has been and remains
constant.
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Yes, I agree with that.  Wasn't helped by deliberate lies
and not only by Wakefield.
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I submitted to two doses of the Covid "vaccine," and then I
realised
that the jackass who was directing it (Fauci) and all the
other scams
(masks and six foot spaces) was partially responsible for
creating
Covid.
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Strange isn't it. The vigorous enforcement, of exactly the same
rules,
that you describe, were blamed for Thailand's rather amazingly low
Covid rates and deaths..
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U.S.  Total cases per 1 million population - 337,912
              Total Deaths per 1 M population       - 3685
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Thailand Total cases per 1 million population - 68,069
                      Total deaths per 1 M population - 494
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I don't know but the general rates of obesity, diabetes,
heart disease are dramatically different between our
countries and all those associate with deleterious outcomes
with viral infections. Maybe significant, maybe not.
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Given the overwhelming enthusiasm -  there is no other word for it -
in doing everything possible to "fight" the disease I'm inclined to
believe it was that effort. Even today masks are commonly seen and
during the epidemic if you weren't wearing a mask people would shake
their finger at you and say "mask, mask". Shops and stores  checked
your temperature before you were admitted. Any public seating was
marked off in 6 foot lines. And all of this wasn't under the gaze of
some "big boss" it was the common ordinary man on the street
enforcing
the rules.
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Here in Florida the "enthusiasm" lasted for a couple of weeks, and
then most people ignored all the rules and went on with their lives.
There were always a few loonies who mentioned that I wasn't wearing a
mask, but they were easy to ignore and I could move them away by
pretending to cough.  I still see an occasional mask out on the bike
trails miles away from civilization or someone wearing a mask when
they're all alone in their car.
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The whole thing was smoke and mirrors and people getting a thrill out
of giving orders to other people.
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Florida - cases/M pop - 374,722
                   deaths/M pop - 4,433
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Thailand - cases/M pop - 68,069
                     deaths/M pop - 499
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Like I said, there are many factors involved. I don't believe the
masks and other forced restrictions were much of a factor anywhere.
Smoke and mirrors.
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Florida had a problem because it's a big travel destination. People
come here on a vacation from all over the world. They bring their
diseases and Florida people interact with them. We also have a bunch
of "snowbirds" who roll in here from northern states and Canada every
fall.
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As for people getting a thrill out of ordering others around....
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The jackass governor of Minnesota (who was the recent jackass Vice
Pres candidate) set up a tattle site where people could call in if
they thought their neighbors had more than the allowed number of
people in their home. He also had "agents of some sort" traveling
through neighborhoods with paint guns threatening to shoot at people
who had not obeyed his curfew orders.
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Had that happened in some places in Florida, somebody would have shot
back with a real gun.
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-- C'est bon
Soloman
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Oh, and 'The Science' which led Governors to leave liquor
stores and casinos open (tax revenue) while ordering schools
and churches closed.
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... Gyms and health clubs closed, too.
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-- C'est bon
Soloman
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On that subject, today brings some helpful and hopeful news:
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https://apnews.com/article/rubio-disinformation-russia-china-iran-
d53d00551a0a57f3114431c624db0b0f
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Government censorship doesn't play well with me.
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right, because we need _more_ disinformation. We don't have enough already.
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Right, because Joe Biden is sharp as the preverbal tack.
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"start your tape right now because I'm about to tell you the truth.
[-] And F--- you if you can't handle the truth. This version of Bidden
intellectually, analytically, is the best Biden ever. Not a close
second. And I have known him for years. The Brzezinski have known him
for 50 years. If it weren't the truth I wouldn't say it."
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/daily-memo/2909317/the-best-biden-ever/
>
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A former editor of The New York Times has accused the White House of
conducting “a massive cover-up of the degree of the president’s
feebleness and his serious physical decline” and chastised the press
for not covering the story until after Joe Biden’s disastrous debate
with Donald Trump.
>
“It’s clear the best news reporters in Washington have failed in the
first duty of journalism: to hold power accountable. It is our duty to
poke through White House smoke screens and find out the truth,” Jill
Abramson said, adding, “It is simply astounding for the entire
country, including its most seasoned reporters, to be as shocked as
everyone was by the ugly and painful reality of (President Joe)
Biden’s debate performance.”
https://www.deseret.com/politics/2024/07/11/joe-biden-debate-disaster-media-complicit/
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Some people still trust the mass media, but not very many..
https://news.gallup.com/poll/651977/americans-trust-media-remains-trend-low.aspx
 True, all true. Far better to get your information  from the Bozo on
the Internet that always tells it just like you want it to be.
Dumbass gets his news the washington examiner, which is pretty much the same thing as the bozo on the internet.
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