Re: Helmet efficacy test

AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

On 4/18/2025 10:12 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:

On 4/17/2025 8:39 AM, AMuzi wrote:

On 4/17/2025 3:20 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 09:03:46 +0700, John B.
<slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
 

On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 11:05:14 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
 

On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 20:39:54 +0700, John B.
<slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
 

On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 07:42:59 -0500, AMuzi
<am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
 

On 4/15/2025 9:02 PM, John B. wrote:

On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 14:46:46 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
 

On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 12:20:51 -0500, AMuzi
<am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
 

On 4/15/2025 12:15 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:

On 4/15/2025 8:56 AM, AMuzi wrote:

 
But here, the rise in anti-vax was driven by
upper class
suburban mothers and Hollywood celebrities who
skew soft
left.  (as with any social phenomenon there are
of course
many flavors of opinion and politics)  It was
unusual
before that quack Wakefield (1998?) but
snowballed after
that.

 
The anti-vax movement was driven by ignorant anti-
scientists. Yes, it's bounced around the
political spectrum,
but the often deliberate ignorance has been and
remains
constant.
 
 

 
Yes, I agree with that.  Wasn't helped by
deliberate lies
and not only by Wakefield.

 
I submitted to two doses of the Covid "vaccine,"
and then I realised
that the jackass who was directing it (Fauci) and
all the other scams
(masks and six foot spaces) was partially
responsible for creating
Covid.

 
Strange isn't it. The vigorous enforcement, of
exactly the same rules,
that you describe, were blamed for Thailand's rather
amazingly low
Covid rates and deaths..
 
U.S.  Total cases per 1 million population - 337,912
            Total Deaths per 1 M population       -
3685
 
Thailand Total cases per 1 million population - 68,069
                    Total deaths per 1 M population
- 494

 
I don't know but the general rates of obesity, diabetes,
heart disease are dramatically different between our
countries and all those associate with deleterious
outcomes
with viral infections. Maybe significant, maybe not.

 
Given the overwhelming enthusiasm -  there is no other
word for it -
in doing everything possible to "fight" the disease
I'm inclined to
believe it was that effort. Even today masks are
commonly seen and
during the epidemic if you weren't wearing a mask
people would shake
their finger at you and say "mask, mask". Shops and
stores  checked
your temperature before you were admitted. Any public
seating was
marked off in 6 foot lines. And all of this wasn't
under the gaze of
some "big boss" it was the common ordinary man on the
street enforcing
the rules.

 
Here in Florida the "enthusiasm" lasted for a couple of
weeks, and
then most people ignored all the rules and went on with
their lives.
There were always a few loonies who mentioned that I
wasn't wearing a
mask, but they were easy to ignore and I could move
them away by
pretending to cough.  I still see an occasional mask
out on the bike
trails miles away from civilization or someone wearing
a mask when
they're all alone in their car.
 
The whole thing was smoke and mirrors and people
getting a thrill out
of giving orders to other people.

 
 
Florida - cases/M pop - 374,722
                 deaths/M pop - 4,433
 
Thailand - cases/M pop - 68,069
                   deaths/M pop - 499

 
Like I said, there are many factors involved. I don't
believe the
masks and other forced restrictions were much of a factor
anywhere.
Smoke and mirrors.
 
Florida had a problem because it's a big travel
destination. People
come here on a vacation from all over the world. They
bring their
diseases and Florida people interact with them. We also
have a bunch
of "snowbirds" who roll in here from northern states and
Canada every
fall.
 
As for people getting a thrill out of ordering others
around....
 
The jackass governor of Minnesota (who was the recent
jackass Vice
Pres candidate) set up a tattle site where people could
call in if
they thought their neighbors had more than the allowed
number of
people in their home. He also had "agents of some sort"
traveling
through neighborhoods with paint guns threatening to
shoot at people
who had not obeyed his curfew orders.
 
Had that happened in some places in Florida, somebody
would have shot
back with a real gun.
 
--
C'est bon
Soloman

 
Oh, and 'The Science' which led Governors to leave liquor
stores and casinos open (tax revenue) while ordering
schools and churches closed.

 
Those weren't decisions based in science, obviously.
 

 

 
 

 
That was the Official Policy at the time, "because...
'Science!' "
 

No that’s economic policy, Dishy Richy “eat out” government help was a
purely to try to stop pubs/cafes etc needing more government funding, all
of the medical advice was this will cause a surge! Which it did!

Roger Merriman