Re: Helmet efficacy test

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Sujet : Re: Helmet efficacy test
De : roger (at) *nospam* sarlet.com (Roger Merriman)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 19. Apr 2025, 15:17:02
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Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 20:03:43 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 07:12:21 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
 
On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 17:56:27 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
 
On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 04:28:32 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
 
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 23:02:10 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
 
On 4/18/2025 8:12 PM, John B. wrote:
 
Hmm "Free speech scares some people"? I don't know about "scares" but
Frankie's free speech calling you a coward certainly set you off.
 
Oh, it happened before that! Our timid tricycle rider entered his
permanent snit before I ever used the word "coward."
 
He was highly offended when I suggested he lacked the courage or
competence to ride normal roads, and that his back-and-forth path riding
might be OK for him, but too boring for me.
 
Remember, my statement was in response to a guy who said there was no
way riding near cars could be safe; and who can't even summon the nerve
to ride an empty suburban bike trail without having deadly weaponry
immediately at hand, chambered and ready to fire.
 
I'm not seeing any evidence of courage there.
 
<LOL> As if a wussie like you would know what courage is all about.
 
Actually, what pissed me off was before that when Krygowski bragged by
posting a list of ineffective thing's that I was supposed to believe
he'd done and demanded that I list, in detail, all of my bicycling
experiences...
 
"How much recreational riding have you done on roads? How many years
commuting to work by bike on normal roads? How much other utility
riding have you done on ordinary roads? How much overnight or longer
traveling have you done on normal roads? How much bike camping? How
many U.S. states have you ridden in? How many foreign countries? How
many century rides have you done? How many rides longer than 100 miles
in one day? How many times have you organized and led friends on road
rides? How many times have you organized and run multi-hundred rider
event rides on normal roads?
 
Answer in detail, please. That will allow us to gauge whether your
courage and experience really are more than mine."
- Frank Krygowski
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/mmxzneaxsdE/m/qVoI4KQlAQAJ
 
That posting told me exactly what kind of a person he was. He was
going to show the new guy that he was to be respected or else. I
called his bluff and now he hides from me knowing that whatever he
posts about me results in more humiliation from me.
 
He actually thought that riding on a group bicycle ride was an
accompishment.
 
His claims to fame are rather Self-Grandizing.
For example.  "How many foreign countries?" I've ridden a number of
countries outside the U.S.(one a war zone) and I can assure you that
other then which side of the road to ride in I saw essentially no
difference.
 
As for his other claims to fame... while he obviously feels proud, it
appears from his writing that it is much a matter of "self
gratification" and even yet more proof of his Narcissistic personality
as those that suffer from this mental disorder have an unreasonably
high sense of their own importance. They need and seek attention and
want people to admire them.
 
Indeed. His sentence below tells me everything I ever needed to know
all about him.
 
"That will allow *us* to gauge whether your courage and experience
really are more than mine."
 
*Emphasis* is mine.
 
Both are variables and depend largely on the circumstances.
 
I've written about the little 7 or 8 years old girl I sometime riding
down a toad near my house. Alert, watches out for other traffic,
reasonable speed. Quite obviously experienced riding on her small
country road, although unlikely to be as safe on a major highway.
 
But of course she wasn't riding on a major highway.
 
I wouldn't be able to hear my music if I rode on a major highway. It's
bad enough riding next to one.
 
Very much speed dependent! And even what are relative small changes seems
to make a difference ie the 20mph to 30mph areas of london for example you
absolutely can hear the difference!

That and Electric buses!

And busy multi lane roads can become much more pleasant places, clearly
very much location dependent, and all that.

--
C'est bon
Soloman
 
Roger Merriman



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