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On 4/19/2025 8:44 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 08:23:00 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:>
On 4/19/2025 4:49 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:On 19 Apr 2025 09:01:43 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:>
>Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:>On 4/18/2025 11:25 AM, Zen Cycle wrote:Does seem to be a fairly low margin, as ever with politics and folks who>>On 4/18/2025 3:44 AM, floriduh dumbass wrote:>On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 22:23:27 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>On 4/17/2025 10:08 PM, AMuzi wrote:>On 4/17/2025 9:01 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:>>>
Oh, and "speech" in the form of millionaire or corporate campaign
contributions is an abomination.
How so?
If I have an individual right to free speech (and I absolutely do),
then
why may my right be curtailed when I join with others of like mind?
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It's a long standing feature of common law (well before USA) that
corporations are fictitious persons, entitled to rights of their
composite individuals when they act as one.
Common law or not, I think the idea of a corporation being a
"person" is
nuts. But even if one accepts their "personhood," they should be
limited
to the amount of speech that _one_ person can produce.
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And "speech" measured in dollars is an abomination.
The party that spent by far, the most money in the 2024 Presidential
campaign lost that election by a significant margin.
dumbass still swallowing magatard spunk...
Trump 49.8%
Harris 48.3%
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1.5 % is _not_ a significant margin. In terms of US Presidential
elections it ranks as the 11th closest margin (out of 47).
Gosh, math can be hard! (For some.)
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And I see the excuses are being piled in heaps. But despite the
irrelevant squirming, the _margin_ was minuscule.
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are true believers, they are fairly immune to facts!
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In uk still have folks saying Jeremy Corbyn (US Bernie Saunders?) was
should have won, if X had happened!
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Failing to remember that his vote or Labour rather was hugely helped by the
Tory party dismissing him as threat for all of his failures and faults he
is a campaigner, plus they did some staggering home goals!
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Hence when Boris called a snap election and didnt make those mistakes he
did get very healthy majority which he managed to fuckup which is him all
over really!
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Roger Merriman
The significance was that every state vote count swung towards the
GOP, and that the popular vote was also for the GOP. That was a
significant swing towards the GOP in spite of the playing down by the
Democrats.
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The left is making a big issue out of Bernie Sanders who is a self
described socialist. As such, he has about the same chance of becoming
President as do I. Socialism doesn't fly very high in the USA.
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Trump is not a very nice person, but I voted for him twice based on
what I believed he could do for the country, and also because of the
even more disgusting nature of his opposition.
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--
C'est bon
Soloman
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People see that differently.
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I do not discount Mr Sanders' appeal.
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Mr Sanders did very well in primaries and seemed poised to
take the democrat party nomination before the Obama wing
interceded by securing Mr Clyburn's 2020 endorsement for Mr
Biden. Whether by threat or favor, that was a complete
surprise and turned the trend.
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https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/02/29/south-carolina-primary-how-clyburn-endorsement-helped-biden-win-big/4918362002/
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https://reason.com/2020/05/09/joe-biden-won-the-democratic-primary-but-bernie-sanders-won-the-party/
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[note dates in links above]
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Because we are a nearly evenly divided nation, the marginal
voter segments are decisive. Those are the generally
disengaged and unmotivated who can be swayed, with
difficulty. Mr Sanders does well with them and also with
much of the various flavors of left.
Bernie can attract a bunch if left wingers and ignorant group thinkers
who can be attracted to anyone who is not Trump, but he DOA as
Presidential cadidate. More so as he gets older and older.
I could be wrong, but I don't think the Democrats have chance unless
they abandon all the unpopular stuff that they're advocating.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
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In 1956, a supporter yelled out to Mr Stevenson, "Every
thinking American is with you!".
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He did not hesitate to reply, "It's not enough, madam. I
need a majority."
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(that exchange may be apocryphal but it's oft quoted)
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