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John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:On 21 Apr 2025 09:14:04 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:That isnt of its self a problem! At least in terms of getting a drink/food
Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:The problem with the Local's Pub or Restaurant is that in many casesOn 19 Apr 2025 22:22:34 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:On 19 Apr 2025 18:24:57 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:On 19 Apr 2025 14:17:02 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:On 19 Apr 2025 11:21:48 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> wrote:On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 04:28:32 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 23:02:10 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On 4/18/2025 8:12 PM, John B. wrote:
Hmm "Free speech scares some people"? I don't know about "scares" but
Frankie's free speech calling you a coward certainly set you off.
Oh, it happened before that! Our timid tricycle rider entered his
permanent snit before I ever used the word "coward."
He was highly offended when I suggested he lacked the courage or
competence to ride normal roads, and that his back-and-forth path riding
might be OK for him, but too boring for me.
Remember, my statement was in response to a guy who said there was no
way riding near cars could be safe; and who can't even summon the nerve
to ride an empty suburban bike trail without having deadly weaponry
immediately at hand, chambered and ready to fire.
I'm not seeing any evidence of courage there.
<LOL> As if a wussie like you would know what courage is all about.
Actually, what pissed me off was before that when Krygowski bragged by
posting a list of ineffective thing's that I was supposed to believe
he'd done and demanded that I list, in detail, all of my bicycling
experiences...
"How much recreational riding have you done on roads? How many years
commuting to work by bike on normal roads? How much other utility
riding have you done on ordinary roads? How much overnight or longer
traveling have you done on normal roads? How much bike camping? How
many U.S. states have you ridden in? How many foreign countries? How
many century rides have you done? How many rides longer than 100 miles
in one day? How many times have you organized and led friends on road
rides? How many times have you organized and run multi-hundred rider
event rides on normal roads?
Answer in detail, please. That will allow us to gauge whether your
courage and experience really are more than mine."
- Frank Krygowski
https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/mmxzneaxsdE/m/qVoI4KQlAQAJ
That posting told me exactly what kind of a person he was. He was
going to show the new guy that he was to be respected or else. I
called his bluff and now he hides from me knowing that whatever he
posts about me results in more humiliation from me.
He actually thought that riding on a group bicycle ride was an
accompishment.
His claims to fame are rather Self-Grandizing.
For example. "How many foreign countries?" I've ridden a number of
countries outside the U.S.(one a war zone) and I can assure you that
other then which side of the road to ride in I saw essentially no
difference.
Really? Quite different cycling experience just locally and further afield.
As folks expectations differ.
As for his other claims to fame... while he obviously feels proud, it
appears from his writing that it is much a matter of "self
gratification" and even yet more proof of his Narcissistic personality
as those that suffer from this mental disorder have an unreasonably
high sense of their own importance. They need and seek attention and
want people to admire them.
He might at worse overstate his experience ie difference between being a
tourist and living in an area even if only for a year or so.
Roger Merriman
I can't see that it matters much as to what country you ride your
bicycle in. You mighrt have to know the different laws, but that's
easy to do.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
The laws are generally fairly uniform and the laws generally are broadly
similar.
It?s more cultural sort of stuff, ie what people expect.
Roger Merriman
I don't need a bicycle to do that. Actually, I believe a bicycle would
be a hindrance when touring someplace I'd never been before. They move
either too fast or too slow. Too fast to interact with people, and too
slow to move from place to place.
Bikes are absolutely not too fast to interact with people, depending on the
ride I?d have a possibility of encountering dog or otherwise walkers, Horse
riders, other cyclists.
And you stop and talk to them just the same as if you were just
walking? I don't.. I doubt you do either..
At the speeds i meeting folks on the trails it?s really not needed, these
are just minor good mornings, nice dog/horse/child interaction not setting
the world to rights over a drink!
Bikes are the fastest thing often and well I?ll need to not blast past
dogs/kids/horses.Roger MerrimanYes I?m unlikely to chat to someone as a plummet of the side of hill, but
it?s quite likely that I?d chat if very briefly at some point on the ride
unless it?s a one of the MTB rides into the hills ie remote areas.
Maybe bike touring doesn?t appeal? Fine but clearly bikes are kinda human
level travel.
I've done a lot of walking around in Caribbean countries. I met and
talked to a lot of people. When I was sailing, I had a bicycle along
with me, but it was only useful for transpiration. When I wanted to go
out and about and meet the locals, which I was eager to do, I went for
walks. My meager high school and college level Spanish improved
dramatically on those walks.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
When I'm in a different culture I like to get involved in that
culture, far away from the tourist traps. I want to ask questions and
talk about our different cultures, food, and lifestyles. That can't be
done with a simple good morning. That can't be done when you're riding
around on a bicycle.
A) as with most tourists traps, there is often if not always the locals
cafe/bars etc just around the corner if one is remotely observant.
B) which ever mode of travel one assumes to talk in a more expanded manner,
probably does require stopping which can be done by most forms of travel
though bike/hiking etc are much more human level of interaction.--Roger Merriman
C'est bon
Soloman
they don't speak your language (:-)
long conversation might be tricky though surprising or not how much chat
one can have despite lack of a shared language!
>
Roger Merriman
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