Re: Helmet efficacy test

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Sujet : Re: Helmet efficacy test
De : Soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Ryder)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 22. Apr 2025, 10:20:30
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On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 22:34:53 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On 4/21/2025 5:26 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/21/2025 1:13 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 13:43:21 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
On 4/21/2025 1:26 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>
https://www.azfamily.com/2025/04/19/man-rips-victims-eye-out-random-
attack-east-phoenix/
>
That's a typical response from you, Andrew. You found _one_ scary story,
out of how many peaceful, unremarkable nighttime walks every day around
the world? You can't really be pretending that incident is
representative of the actual level of risk! How many attacks per million
nighttime walks do you think actually occur?
>
That's aside from the fact that the timid tricyclist specified "foreign
country." But Phoenix is in _this_ country. I'm pretty sure the foreign
countries that I've visited have all been shown to be safer, on average,
than America.
>
Well, if you're only going to go to "safe" countries. Much of the
Carribean where I was walking is today, not particularly safe....
 
As here, many local variants to all that.
 
My employee says he and his bride never felt unsafe in Costa Rica (a
nation with no army, BTW).
>
There is a fundamental difference between "felt safe" and "were safe."
As we've seen, some people are very, very timid. The most timid person
posting here did not specify "third world country" or "country with high
rate of violent crime." He mocked the idea of walking alone at night in
_any_ foreign country.
>
For context, our timid friend doesn't feel safe riding on a suburban
bike path unless he's got his handgun loaded, chambered, and close to
his crotch. That's beyond timid. That's paranoid.

My bike rides and I still have that permanent rent free home in
Krygowski's head. He knows I've lived a far more auspicious, exciting,
and adventurous life than he has. He's ashamed of being such a wuss
and he's angry about me pointing it out.

... Even in small towns and
villages there are guys with black balaclavas and auto weapons in small
groups. Scared the hell out of him.
>
Gosh! And I thought automatic weapons were supposed to be wonderful!  ;-)
>
Yes, there are scary places in the world. There are neighborhoods I know
 where I would probably avoid walking alone at night.

Krygowski says there are neighborhoods he wouldn't want to walk alone
in at night. That's pretty much the same as what I said.

There are times
and places to be very cautious. But our tricyclist seems afraid of
walking in the dark in _any_ foreign country.

"_any_ foreign country?"  That straw came straight from Krygowski's
fervent imagination.

I can't conceive of living a life so limited by fear.

Krygowski not only makes up stories about himself, he makes them up
about other people. Unable to argue against what I really said, he
puts together a dishonest strawman to rant about me.

I think Krygowski is angry at me for pointing out his recent made up
anecdote about having a dinner conversation with some German people.

His lies are very easy for me to spot, and the more rhetoric he posts,
the easier it gets.



--
C'est bon
Soloman

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