Re: silca and Tariffs

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Sujet : Re: silca and Tariffs
De : roger (at) *nospam* sarlet.com (Roger Merriman)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 27. Apr 2025, 17:16:45
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AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 4/26/2025 4:11 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 4/26/2025 3:06 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
On 4/26/2025 12:41 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On 26 Apr 2025 09:14:12 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
 
 
<https://youtu.be/VKz5J5PPt-Q?si=ntPrbZPhCguTIuQM>
 
 
Josh of Silca does a good job of explaining how the tariffs are effecting
US companies certainly small ones, as ever it’s a moving target so may well
change.
 
Roger Merriman
 
Many countries have tariffs on products from the USA. I see no reason
why the USA shouldn't have tariffs on their products. Maybe it will
bring manufacturing back, maybe not. The USA used to be a
manufacturing powerhouse and the bureaucratic jackasses let it slip
away. I don't know if Trump's plans can save the country, but it was
definatly going to hell with the same old, same old plans. At least
he's trying something new.
 
--
C'est bon
Soloman
 
I am in complete agreement on the importance and benefit of
removing disparate tariffs.
 
I can't agree that it will make a significant difference in
industrial production. With our Byzantine regulations, bans,
permits, reviews and so on, plus unions, and a combination
of apathy and lack of skills in younger generations ('don't
know. don't care') there's no obvious path to refining our
huge stores of rare earths, making steel from our excellent
iron ore and coking coal, building ships once more or a
gazillion other lost industrial projects.
 
Europe seems to have kept a bit more of its industrial base, and plenty of
regulations and unions, French in particular do like a good strike!
 
Europe and Us have lost a most of their industrial capacity, for largely
cost reasons, though some industries remain such as military.
 
Reciprocal tariffs are good, and moral, but the effect will
be about the same as increasing the oceans' volume by
pissing in them.
 
This isn’t reciprocal but a trade war with China, which is a PR wonder for
the Chinese government as they can blame you now, ie the US for any
problems.
 
Roger Merriman
 
 
There are many factors, domestic and foreign.  The results
have become critical:
 
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/uk-steel-decades-of-decline/
 
 
Uk privatised services companies be that steel or otherwise are deeply
unpopular and the general desire for nationalisation is there.
 
Governments have let the free markets be rather too free for various
reasons some ideological some political short term gains.
 
But it’s deeply unpopular now, last government essentially asset stripped
the country!
 
Roger Merriman
 
 
 
 
A state owned/managed steel maker?  Check the history of that.
 

In name only was bought out few years back and is privately and non uk
owned i forget who but clearly shouldn’t have been left to the only one,
for all sorts of good national interests.

Roger Merriman


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