Re: RE: Re: Disc's without power

On 5/1/2025 5:47 PM, cyclintom wrote:

On Wed Apr 30 18:39:08 2025 Roger Merriman  wrote:

cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Mon Apr 28 22:26:38 2025 Roger Merriman  wrote:

cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:

Took the Idol into the shop on Saturday to see if Robinson can figure
what is wrong with the discs. Previous disc brake bikes I built would
lift the rear wheel if you put the front brake on too hard. Not only will
this one not but the brakes sqeal so loudly coming to a stop that the
vibration triggers the fall-off detector in the Garmin. My guess is that
the actuators are misaligned vertically so that the mounts need to be
refaced. There had to be some reason that I got the frameset for next to
nothing. (25% of the going price) Refacing is fast and cheap if you have
the Park tools for it. But they are only worthwhile for a shop to buy
since all the rest of my bikes are rim brakes,.
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Lack of power and noise is more likely oil contamination which is disks
real weakness they can?t tolerate any, a misaligned calliper or dinged
rotor would still have plenty of power just be noisy (tends to be swish
than honk) and vibrate though remarkably little in my experience!

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Perhaps I misunderstand you b ut it appears that I described the symptoms
of a problem and you said it wasn't so. If it wasn't so why would I put
the bike in the best shop (also the most expensive)?
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To get a noticeable reduction in power from disks by being misaligned let
alone as significant as you said would require a massive amount of
misalignment, and frankly would bind the rotor well before that point.
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Noise and lack of power are absolutely indicative of pads that are
contaminated, which is disks one real weakness, do need to be much more
careful about oils near them, unlike rim brakes.
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That is as bad as you telling me that Garmin hadn't updated their
software after I got a notification to update it, did so, and there was a
major change in the average speed which showed a 2 mph increase in
average speed. It was your contention that if the version number didn't
change, the software didn't change. In an ideal world you would be
correct. But with people like Flunky claiming to be EE's we quite
obviously are not in an ideal world.
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I have absolutely the same Garmin by all means find the Garmin update on
their website! You will not as like a few things you?re confabulating
stuff.

    Roger, I am trying hard not to insult you but you haven't answered what you do for a living?
 I am not making up that major change in software results.
 My average speed last year was 8 mph. And I was riding quite well. In January I did 400 miles and that was mostly very difficult climbing so that my average was 4.58 mph The climbing was so difficult that I suspect it brought on my stroke. I was off of the bike for 2 months and when I signed the Garmin on it said that I needed to update the software. according to Garmin the last time it was updated was 2022. And yet it took several minutes to update the software and showed the clock as the update occurred. Starting in April 2025 which was after the recent update, I immediately noticed that the average speed was 2 mph+ over December of 2024. That was a month when I was doing flat rides so I should have December/April average speeds nearly the same..
 Now it is possible that the manaqement software had a problem and it didn't ask me to update. But then the updating dates are all wrong. It does not show me as updating the 830 firmware in March 30, 2025.
 What it DOES show is that I am a beta software tester so I have the BETA software as a test engineer (though they haven't asked me about it). That means that MY software is NOT the last Garmin update at all but a newer version

lol...first off, dumbass, when you join a beta test program it doesn't make you a test engineer, it makes you a guinea pig.
Secondly, Even Betaware has version update topology.
third, you "apparently" joined the beta program? You don't remember doing it? Then you complain loudly in here that you were getting updates with no change in the displayed version?
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