Re: RE: Re: Disc's without power

On 5/2/2025 11:32 AM, cyclintom wrote:

On Fri May 2 04:39:00 2025 Roger Merriman  wrote:

cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Thu May 1 15:20:05 2025 Roger Merriman  wrote:

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I?m slightly surprised he admitted he was taking it to the shop! I
personally go for the how often am I likely to use said tools, can I
reasonably do it? My ability to fix stuff is rather limited now as the
brain doesn?t work the way it used to.
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And the bike shop is a 5 min walk away and being a shop that does repairs
as their focus, it?s hardly expensive.

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Do you own a disc brake bike? The full set of tools for working on them
from Park Tool is pretty damn expensive.
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I do and have done for decades MTBer remember we?ve used disks for quite a
bit longer than roadies.
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https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-Brake-Mount-Facing/dp/B014LC7546/ref=asc_df_B014LC7546?tag=bngsmtphsnus-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=79852149837928&hvnetw=s&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583451676423827&psc=1
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That is only half the tools that they sell for disc brakes.
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So you think that because I have ONE flat mount disc brake bike that I am
going to spend over $400 for surfacing tools?

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In unsurprising news I agree with Andrew that disk brakes are air in the
system or contaminated pads, mostly they just work for years.

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And my rim brake DeRosa Aluminum main triangle and the Disc Brake DeRosa
Idol full carbon are exactly the same weight. So why would I even want to
have a dic brake bike except as a test to see if flat surface mount disc
bike is any better than the older offset disc brakes? The Merak has
carbon wheels and stops a LOT better than the disc. The extra weight of
the discs and the constant maintenance show me that they are only for
pros and you might notice that manufacturers suddenly are building rim
brake bikes again. Do you suppose that there may be a reason for that?
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Also, carbon fiber bikes were used BECAUSE they are light and not because
they ride well. Tom Ritchey was interviewed and said that even 1 1/8th
steering tubes screws up the comfort of a bike.
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Apparently I filed to be a tester for the Beta software so MY software is
different than the stop software with some sort of error in the Average
Speed calculation. I know the Beta software is correct because I timed it on a watch.

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Beta software appears is also for the 830 not being updated as well the 830
is a generation behind likely to be two this year ish as the 850 is due.
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But either way beta or not, had updates in years.

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I am a real EE unlike Flunky so stop pretending that Flunky saying
something means anything at all
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Going back to other claims doesn?t strengthen your argument!

    Roger, I didn't have problems with previous disc brakes which includes 29ers. But they all had those mounts that you installed on the stay mounts and which held the disc actuators pretty far off of the stays. I imagine that there was enough flex in those so that they would flex over into the correct correlation with the disc if they weren't perfectly aligned. Every other disc bike I had would brake too hard - they ALL could lift the rear wheel if you weren't careful with the front disc.

Rim brakes do that too, dumbass.

 Whatever would cause you to say that mine would too after I just said that it wouldn't?
 Now it turns out that somehow I must have gotten registered for the Beta software

"must have gotten registered for beta software"...Sure sparky, it happened spontaneously, just like the dent popped out of your top tube.

and you're going to argue about that despite knowing nothing about it?

Everything he's written about Garmin firmware updates has been accurate. You? notsomuch....

I SAID that I had a software update and it caused a major change in average speed. WHY would you argue about that?

Because if it happened to you it would have happened to everyone. It would have been all over the user forums. (news flash: it ain't)

The NUMBERS changed and you say that they didn't?

He never wrote that.

 Please don't talk about software updates if you aren't a software engineer.

Why not, you do it all the time and you're not a software engineer.

Microsoft usually changes the version numbers with an automatic process but small time devices do not.

oh dear gawd...More proof that you aren't and never were a software engineer.

What's more, the senior software engineers who are likely to take the updating process seriously were probably promoted to the Garmin smart watches and jr. software engineers who might not remember the proper updating procesidure are left writing beta software. They obviously know what they are doing but that doesn't mean that they get not very important things like the version numbers correct. Such as - though a Beta Release, my software still has the last release update numbering.

And more proof that you were never a software engineer.
- There's no such thing as "writing beta software". Software development is software devlopment. sometimes it goes though a beta cycle, but there is no such thing as specifically writing beta software, much less leaving development up to junior engineers.
- The revision control process is managed through a combination of the compiler tools and configuration management processes, and for large companies like Garmin the compilers are tied into a PLM system. There is virtually no way for a version of code  - beta, development, or not - to ever leave Garmin without proper revision control and tracking with updated revision topology.

 I would expect that sort of behavior from Flunky since he is a complete moron, but until recently you've always seemed intelligent enough.

lol...this from a guy who thinks junior software engineers are in charge of "writing beta software".
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