Re: repairs and obsolescence ish

On Thu, 8 May 2025 07:55:10 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
wrote:

On 5/7/2025 8:08 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Wed, 07 May 2025 18:36:05 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
wrote:
 

On Wed May 7 09:38:45 2025 Jeff Liebermann  wrote:

On 7 May 2025 00:17:10 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
>

Rather depends on the how and the why, I believe has been a push back by
consumers for example with car dashboards in that while screens and so on
are fun, they?d like some buttons still please and so on.

>
There is hope for push buttons, in the name of safety.
>
"Rejoice! Carmakers Are Embracing Physical Buttons Again
Amazingly, reaction times using screens while driving are worse than
being drunk or high - no wonder 90 percent of drivers hate using
touchscreens in cars. Finally the auto industry is coming to its
senses."
<https://www.wired.com/story/why-car-brands-are-finally-switching-back-to-buttons/>
"Automakers that nest key controls deep in touchscreen menus forcing
motorists to drive eyes-down rather than concentrate on the road ahead
may have their non-US safety ratings clipped next year."
>
Sorry, but you'll need a Wired Magazine subscription to read the
entire article.  If you don't want a subscription, you might find the
reader comments interesting.
>
In my never humble opinion, buttons, touch screens, haptic feedback,
voice control, gestures, sign language and AI all have their good and
bad points.  The trick is to attach numbers (fatality rate, accident
rate, cost, fashion, etc) to the various schemes and settle on the
least disgusting and most tolerable method.

 

Liebermann, how many touch screen cars do you have?

 
None.  Why do you ask?
 
Did any of these cars use manual push buttons and switches?
<https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:ugcPost:6912346811772932096/>
"I got a severe concussion in 2010 that led to a type of seizures that
I didn't remember afterwards. This wasn't discovered and treated
properly until 2012 after 4 car wrecks luckily without any injuries"
If these conventional controls were at least partly responsible for
your 4 car wrecks, you should try driving a car with a touch screen to
see if that improves your safety record.

>
AFAIK he's still driving a car with no touch screen.

Tom claimed to have at least 3 different models of Ford Taurus or
Taurus-X, some of which may have had an early model (2007 and up) Ford
SYNC system:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Sync>
or an aftermarket touch screen:
"Ford Taurus touchscreens"
<https://www.google.com/search?q=ford%20taurus%20touchscreen&udm=2>

Much depends on determining the exact year of the 4 vehicles that Tom
had wrecked:
(Aug 16, 2023)
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/AakEwPY_PTw/m/SkzXdWPDAQAJ>
"I don't see how he could drive the 2012 Taurus in 2017 and in 2022 (5
years later) be driving a 2008 Taurus X, unless he first destroyed the
2012 Taurus."



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