Re: repairs and obsolescence ish

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Sujet : Re: repairs and obsolescence ish
De : am (at) *nospam* yellowjersey.org (AMuzi)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 09. May 2025, 17:56:12
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On 5/9/2025 11:51 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Fri, 9 May 2025 08:58:15 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
 
On 5/8/2025 9:16 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Thu, 8 May 2025 20:03:39 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote:
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On 5/7/2025 12:38 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On 7 May 2025 00:17:10 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
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Rather depends on the how and the why, I believe has been a push back by
consumers for example with car dashboards in that while screens and so on
are fun, they’d like some buttons still please and so on.
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There is hope for push buttons, in the name of safety.
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"Rejoice! Carmakers Are Embracing Physical Buttons Again
Amazingly, reaction times using screens while driving are worse than
being drunk or high - no wonder 90 percent of drivers hate using
touchscreens in cars. Finally the auto industry is coming to its
senses."
<https://www.wired.com/story/why-car-brands-are-finally-switching-back-to-buttons/>
"Automakers that nest key controls deep in touchscreen menus forcing
motorists to drive eyes-down rather than concentrate on the road ahead
may have their non-US safety ratings clipped next year."
>
Sorry, but you'll need a Wired Magazine subscription to read the
entire article.  If you don't want a subscription, you might find the
reader comments interesting.
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In my never humble opinion, buttons, touch screens, haptic feedback,
voice control, gestures, sign language and AI all have their good and
bad points.  The trick is to attach numbers (fatality rate, accident
rate, cost, fashion, etc) to the various schemes and settle on the
least disgusting and most tolerable method.
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I greatly prefer physical buttons, switches, etc. while driving.
Fortunately my EV mostly uses those for common functions; but there's
still a problem. Many switches are flat, low profile and all in a dense
row. Even if I did memorize that something like "Defrost" was the third
one from the left, it would be difficult to locate it by touch.
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A possible solution would be switches with covers, etc. molded in
different shapes that gave a clue about their function. I'm reminded of
the increase in airplane safety (in WW2, IIRC) when the pilot's lever
for "flaps" was shaped like a wing cross section. The adjacent lever for
"landing gear" was shaped like a wheel.
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Nice idea, but there's a problem.  Ralph Nader was able to identify
numerous safety hazards in the automobiles made in the late 1960's.
Among them is getting impaled or punctured by projecting knobs and
switches.  Sorry, but flat and low profile are generally safer than
switches and controls with projecting levers.
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What I eventually did was get a pack of ~5mm self adhesive hemispherical
rubber bumpers. I stuck those on certain buttons, the ones I push most
often, so I could find them by touch. It was a big improvement.
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Good idea, but why reinvent the wheel?  You could have used
standardized Braille stickers instead.  You'll also find Braille
stickers on ATM machines, elevators, roadside phones, some toys, etc.
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Also, look into ELIA Frames, a Braille alternative:
<https://theblindguide.com/braille-alternative-is-elia-frames/>
>
"ELIA Frames Font Explanation Video"
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3If0ZWu7jHM>
"We have gone to great lengths testing and refining ELIA Frames to
maximize its learnability. Over 200,000 test subject responses were
collected and analyzed. The key design principle that was applied, in
order to leverage a person’s finger sensitivity, was to make each
character’s design simple but unique, and to space each letter’s
features far apart enough that they can be easily recognized."
>
>
Small clarification on the dates regarding Mr Nader.
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His strongest criticisms were for Volkswagen and Corvair
rear swing axles. Both manufacturers had already planned
their improved IRS models; Corvairs were on the road in USA
from September 1964, before Mr Nader published in January 1965. (Volkswagen didn't change over until autumn 1967 for
the 1968 model year)
 Not that the swing axles were inherently dangerous, except to
loudmouth, self serving jackasses like Nader who didn't even have a
driver's licence when he wrote about Corvairs. Porsche 356 Speedsters
had swing axles and many of them were raced successfully.
--
C'est bon
Soloman
Well, yes. Except Ernie Kovacs.
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Andrew Muzi
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
5 May 25 * repairs and obsolescence ish41Roger Merriman
5 May 25 `* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish40Frank Krygowski
7 May 25  `* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish39Roger Merriman
7 May 25   +* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish2Frank Krygowski
7 May 25   i`- Re: repairs and obsolescence ish1Roger Merriman
7 May 25   `* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish36Jeff Liebermann
7 May 25    +* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish11AMuzi
7 May 25    i+* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish5Zen Cycle
7 May 25    ii`* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish4AMuzi
7 May 25    ii +- Re: repairs and obsolescence ish1Catrike Ryder
9 May 25    ii `* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish2Frank Krygowski
9 May 25    ii  `- Re: repairs and obsolescence ish1Roger Merriman
7 May 25    i+- Re: repairs and obsolescence ish1Catrike Ryder
8 May 25    i`* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish4Jeff Liebermann
9 May 25    i `* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish3Frank Krygowski
9 May 25    i  `* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish2Jeff Liebermann
9 May 25    i   `- Re: repairs and obsolescence ish1Roger Merriman
8 May 25    +* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish6Jeff Liebermann
8 May 25    i`* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish5Zen Cycle
8 May 25    i `* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish4Jeff Liebermann
8 May 25    i  +- Re: repairs and obsolescence ish1Roger Merriman
8 May 25    i  `* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish2Zen Cycle
8 May 25    i   `- Re: repairs and obsolescence ish1Jeff Liebermann
9 May 25    `* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish18Frank Krygowski
9 May 25     +* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish9AMuzi
9 May 25     i`* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish8zen cycle
9 May 25     i +- Re: repairs and obsolescence ish1Roger Merriman
9 May 25     i +- Re: repairs and obsolescence ish1AMuzi
9 May 25     i +* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish2Frank Krygowski
9 May 25     i i`- Re: repairs and obsolescence ish1Catrike Ryder
10 May 25     i `* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish3Jeff Liebermann
10 May 25     i  `* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish2AMuzi
10 May 25     i   `- Re: repairs and obsolescence ish1Jeff Liebermann
9 May 25     +* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish7Jeff Liebermann
9 May 25     i`* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish6AMuzi
9 May 25     i `* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish5Catrike Ryder
9 May 25     i  `* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish4AMuzi
10 May 25     i   `* Re: repairs and obsolescence ish3Frank Krygowski
10 May 25     i    +- Re: repairs and obsolescence ish1AMuzi
10 May 25     i    `- Re: repairs and obsolescence ish1AMuzi
9 May 25     `- Re: repairs and obsolescence ish1Roger Merriman

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