Re: Disc's without power

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Sujet : Re: Disc's without power
De : am (at) *nospam* yellowjersey.org (AMuzi)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 12. May 2025, 13:48:03
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On 5/12/2025 1:42 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sun, 11 May 2025 23:26:26 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
 
On Mon, 12 May 2025 01:19:01 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@gXXmail.com> wrote:
>
I think Jeff's right. The notion of cars parked at the curb in Gary, IN
but surrounded by forests of green weeds is pretty weird. So are the
forests of weeds growing through pavement in other images.
>
Yes.  What immediately caught my attention was how similar almost all
of the 50 houses were.  Similar sky, similar weeds, similar debris, no
broken or boarded windows, almost identical road types, and so on.  It
wasn't obvious just looking at one image, but after skimming all of
them, the commonality is disturbingly obvious.  Putting all the images
on one page makes it easier to compare:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=https%3A%2F%2Fmoneyinc.com%2F50-worst-places-to-live-in-the-u-s%&udm=2>
(click on "see more anyway" at bottom page).  Some of the buildings
look like they were made from the same cookie cutter template.
>
I do wonder how she got the fake images. I doubt a hack journalist
would do them herself. Are there people one can hire cheaply to do such
work?
>
Yes.  She designed them using one of several AI engines.  For example:
>
"Design your dream home with our AI House Generator! Create detailed
house designs, from layout to aesthetics."
<https://openart.ai/generator/house>
>
More:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=how%20to%20design%20a%20house%20with%20AI&udm=7>
>
I spent some time with several generative AI "drawing" tools trying to
design a realistic bicycle.  I got futuristic bicycles instead, but I
think I could have produced something useful eventually.
>
Go to Microsoft Edge browser and Copilot.  Ask the AI to:
"Draw a bicycle with the latest technology"
That produced this:
<https://bing.com/th/id/BCO.8f0b7f05-233b-4d83-951b-d4aef1694ac7.png>
and this:
"add pedals, headlight, and downtube shifter"
<https://bing.com/th/id/BCO.f5db522a-f193-4184-be10-b29fb87b45de.png>
The image is too dark, so I made it brighter:
"brighten picture"
<https://bing.com/th/id/BCO.aaa0ff44-6c47-4e2c-89f0-5cce70f64c9d.png>
Oops, I should have said "brighten bicycle":
"undo" followed by "brighten bicycle"
<https://bing.com/th/id/BCO.9b98ddfe-2a4d-4b90-ab26-28627ae37a09.png>
Also wrong, but I think you get the idea.
 Notice what the AI though "downtube shifters" look like.  Hardly
realistic and on the wrong tube.  Similar problems with pedals and
headlight.
 This is my first (and last) attempt to produce a run down
neighborhood, like in the original article.  Amazingly similar,
methinks:
"draw a run down urban row of stores, with thick grass growing along
the sidewalk, some graffiti on the walls, and a trash bin in front of
one house"
<https://bing.com/th/id/BCO.efcaba9c-45d8-48b2-96fc-7b4f953ac4ed.png>
Notice the similar sky compared to the original article.
"brighten the buildings"
<https://bing.com/th/id/BCO.a3de4530-e4a6-40a0-8d13-8c22026c1f5b.png>
 Starting to look familiar?  I suspect such garbage will be quite
common, especially because it doesn't require signed photo release
forms.
 
AI for that's pathetic.
I use the various realty web sites regularly (how far from customer is a competent LBS? Is that a residential address for freight billing?).
Mr Krygowski's neighborhood for example:
https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-search/Poland_OH/show-newest-listings
--
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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2 May 25 iii+* Re: Disc's without power7Frank Krygowski
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2 May 25 iii`* Re: Disc's without power6Roger Merriman
2 May 25 iii +* Re: Disc's without power2Zen Cycle
2 May 25 iii i`- Re: Disc's without power1Zen Cycle
2 May 25 iii `* Re: Disc's without power3Jeff Liebermann
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3 May 25 iii  `- Re: Disc's without power1Jeff Liebermann
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2 May 25 ii `- Re: Disc's without power1Zen Cycle
1 May 25 i+* Re: Disc's without power8Zen Cycle
2 May 25 ii`* Re: Disc's without power7Zen Cycle
4 May 25 ii `* Re: Disc's without power6zen cycle
4 May 25 ii  `* Re: Disc's without power5Roger Merriman
4 May 25 ii   +* Re: Disc's without power2zen cycle
4 May 25 ii   i`- Re: Disc's without power1Roger Merriman
7 May 25 ii   `* Re: Disc's without power2Roger Merriman
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4 May 25 i i +* Re: Disc's without power29Jeff Liebermann
5 May 25 i i i+* Re: Disc's without power3Zen Cycle
12 May 25 i i ii`* Re: Disc's without power2Zen Cycle
13 May 25 i i ii `- Re: Disc's without power1Zen Cycle
12 May 25 i i i+* Re: Disc's without power23Jeff Liebermann
12 May 25 i i ii`* Re: Disc's without power22Frank Krygowski
12 May 25 i i ii `* Re: Disc's without power21Jeff Liebermann
12 May 25 i i ii  `* Re: Disc's without power20Jeff Liebermann
12 May 25 i i ii   +* Re: Disc's without power3Catrike Ryder
12 May 25 i i ii   i+- Re: Disc's without power1Roger Merriman
12 May 25 i i ii   i`- Re: Disc's without power1Jeff Liebermann
12 May 25 i i ii   +* Re: Disc's without power15AMuzi
12 May 25 i i ii   i`* Re: Disc's without power14Frank Krygowski
12 May 25 i i ii   i +* Re: Disc's without power7Frank Krygowski
13 May 25 i i ii   i i`* Re: Disc's without power6Frank Krygowski
13 May 25 i i ii   i i +- Re: Disc's without power1Zen Cycle
13 May 25 i i ii   i i +* Re: Disc's without power3Jeff Liebermann
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14 May 25 i i ii   i i `- Re: Disc's without power1Frank Krygowski
12 May 25 i i ii   i `* Re: Disc's without power6Zen Cycle
13 May 25 i i ii   i  +* Re: Disc's without power2Frank Krygowski
13 May 25 i i ii   i  i`- Re: Disc's without power1Catrike Ryder
13 May 25 i i ii   i  +* Re: Disc's without power2Jeff Liebermann
13 May 25 i i ii   i  i`- Re: Disc's without power1zen cycle
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12 May 25 i i ii   `- Re: Disc's without power1Frank Krygowski
12 May 25 i i i`* Re: Disc's without power2Zen Cycle
12 May 25 i i i `- Re: Disc's without power1Zen Cycle
12 May 25 i i `- Re: Disc's without power1Zen Cycle
2 May 25 i `* Re: Disc's without power49Frank Krygowski
3 May 25 i  +* Re: Disc's without power12Catrike Ryder
3 May 25 i  i`* Re: Disc's without power11Jeff Liebermann
3 May 25 i  i +* Re: Disc's without power4AMuzi
3 May 25 i  i i+* Re: Disc's without power2Frank Krygowski
4 May 25 i  i ii`- Re: Disc's without power1zen cycle
4 May 25 i  i i`- Re: Disc's without power1zen cycle
3 May 25 i  i +* Re: Disc's without power4Jeff Liebermann
3 May 25 i  i i+- Re: Disc's without power1Jeff Liebermann
4 May 25 i  i i`* Re: Disc's without power2zen cycle
4 May 25 i  i i `- Re: Disc's without power1Jeff Liebermann
3 May 25 i  i `* Re: Disc's without power2Frank Krygowski
3 May 25 i  i  `- Re: Disc's without power1Jeff Liebermann
3 May 25 i  +* Re: Disc's without power4AMuzi
4 May 25 i  i`* Re: Disc's without power3zen cycle
7 May 25 i  i +- Re: Disc's without power1Zen Cycle
7 May 25 i  i `- Re: Disc's without power1AMuzi
3 May 25 i  +* Re: Disc's without power19Roger Merriman
4 May 25 i  i+- Re: Disc's without power1Roger Merriman
4 May 25 i  i`* Re: Disc's without power17Frank Krygowski
4 May 25 i  i `* Re: Disc's without power16Catrike Ryder
4 May 25 i  i  `* Re: Disc's without power15Frank Krygowski
4 May 25 i  i   `* Re: Disc's without power14Catrike Ryder
5 May 25 i  i    `* Re: Disc's without power13Frank Krygowski
5 May 25 i  i     +* Re: Disc's without power11Catrike Ryder
5 May 25 i  i     i`* Re: Disc's without power10Roger Merriman
5 May 25 i  i     i +* Re: Disc's without power2zen cycle
5 May 25 i  i     i i`- Re: Disc's without power1Catrike Ryder
5 May 25 i  i     i `* Re: Disc's without power7Catrike Ryder
5 May 25 i  i     i  `* Re: Disc's without power6Frank Krygowski
5 May 25 i  i     i   `* Re: Disc's without power5Catrike Ryder
6 May 25 i  i     i    `* Re: Disc's without power4Frank Krygowski
6 May 25 i  i     i     +- Re: Disc's without power1Catrike Ryder
6 May 25 i  i     i     `* Re: Disc's without power2zen cycle
6 May 25 i  i     i      `- Re: Disc's without power1Catrike Ryder
5 May 25 i  i     `- Re: Disc's without power1zen cycle
3 May 25 i  +* Re: Disc's without power10Jeff Liebermann
3 May 25 i  `* Re: Disc's without power3Frank Krygowski
2 May 25 +* Re: Disc's without power3Jeff Liebermann
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