Re: RE: Re: Very Slow Leaks.

On 5/14/2025 2:10 PM, cyclintom wrote:

On Tue May 6 15:41:05 2025 AMuzi  wrote:

On 5/6/2025 3:24 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Tue, 6 May 2025 14:50:00 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
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On 5/6/2025 2:43 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Tue, 6 May 2025 14:52:02 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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I doubt that's a real problem. I'd imagine any wires would be lodged in
the tire, not in the tube.

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How could the fine wires cause an air leak without puncturing the
inner tube?  I could drill a small hole in the tire and as long as the
inner tube is doing its job, the tire will function (fairly) normally.
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One exception is if you're riding on tubeless tires, which don't have
an inner tube.
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I've never seen such.  The object is normally snug in the
tire casing and protrudes (more or less or a lot less)
through the casing until it just nicks the tube.

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OK, got it.  I mistakenly assumed that "lodged in the tire" meant that
it had also punctured the inner tube.  However, if there is an air
leak, I still think it's a good assumption that the leak is in the
inner tube and not necessarily in only the tire.
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Rarities include objects which pass right through the tire
and are found flopping around in the casing after the tube
is removed. These are typically large objects, larger than
3mm. I've never seen an object fully inside an inner tube.

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"the leak is in the inner tube and not necessarily in only
the tire."
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Absolutely and exclusively in the tube.
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In fact, many tires (non-tubeless) are quite permeable. This
is observed when changing a flat on a wet tire- bubbles
appear along the sidewalls while inflating as the air
between tube and casing is forced out.
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The casing fabric need only be intact and uniform, not
airtight.  Tread is nice but not critical (you can ride,
just maybe not so far as the casing will abrade and shred).
Damaged (bruised or sliced) casings will appear lumpy or
squiggly like scoliosis and ought to be replaced at the
rider's earliest convenience as the fabric will continue to
tear away from the injury. Destroyed casings are anything
with a hole or slit big enough to see through (maybe larger
for low pressure MTB tires) . Those will not contain a tube
under riding pressure and must be replaced.

    I've been using Specialized tubes and it appears that their light construction is the cause of these slow leaks. Trek innertubes do not give me these problems. Now if we can get Liebermann to stop talking as if he has repaired an innertube in the last 30 years and Flunky to stop pretending that the carrier in the glues doesn't lift the marker pin ink we can actually address the actual subject.

I have no doubt doubt that the glue will remove the ink. That's not the issue, dumbass. The issue is you're doing it wrong.
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