Re: Science of cycling still largely mysterious

On 5/21/2025 3:12 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Wed, 21 May 2025 13:33:38 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
 

On 5/21/2025 5:10 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Wed, 21 May 2025 00:09:16 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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On 5/20/2025 4:58 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Tue, 20 May 2025 16:43:34 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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On 5/20/2025 1:38 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Tue, 20 May 2025 11:44:29 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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"Science of cycling still largely mysterious"
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This article from 2016 recently popped up again:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/science-of-cycling-still-mysterious-1.3699012

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As is the case with most issues, if I think I need to know something I
go about trying to learn it. I've little time for learning about stuff
I have no need to know.

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Yep. So much for curiosity, so much for education... Ignorance is bliss!

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No, ignorance would be when someone doesn't know something they need
to know.

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ignorance
noun
ig·?no·?rance ?ig-n(?-)r?n(t)s
Synonyms of ignorance
: the state or fact of being ignorant : lack of knowledge, education, or
awareness

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I see, so by that definition you're ignorant because you don't know
how to write C++ code, sail a boat, scuba dive, or skin and butcher a
deer.

Such a simplistic thinker! It should be obvious that a person can be
ignorant of some topics but not others. And even regarding one topic,
ignorance is not binary. One can know certain facts about a topic but be
ignorant of other facts.
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I've done some of the things you listed, and have been curious enough to
learn a bit about others by reading and/or discussing them with others.

 I doubt you have any idea what C++ is, let alone know how to write it.

I've programmed in at least five systems and/or languages. Like Zen, I've done a little C based programming, and like him I know enough to be dangerous; I'm certainly no expert. But C (or C++ or C#, depending on the year) was one of the programming options for my students' programming course requirement.
I'll note that we don't know _you_ have ever really done anything with C++, or Pascal, or Python, or Fortran, or Basic, or LabView, or Val II, or PLC ladder logic (which is like programming in Martian).

Sailing a real boat, not a simple 12 foot cat rig requires a lot more
than raising the sails and handling the wheel or tiller.

I've never handled a boat any bigger than 35 feet, and that one was a fairly brief experience, on Lake Erie. I've sailed smaller boats many times, sometimes alone, sometimes with help. I have several very good friends who are avid sailors. No, I'm not an expert. But (wait for it!) I don't need to be.  ;-)

I doubt you
have any idea what a cat rig is, let alone how you trim the sails.

:-)  I thought you were advocating learning _only_ what one _needs_ to know!

But "I've little time for learning about stuff I have no need to know"
shows a general lack of curiosity, which leads to a general lack of
knowledge - as evidenced in our discussions! It makes for a dull person.

 <LOL> You're the dullest individual I've ever come across.

Oh please! You're fascinated by me! You read every post I make and respond to almost all of them! I give meaning to your dull life.    :-)

Contrast with, say, Andrew Muzi, who had no need to learn as much
history as he obviously knows. John Slocomb who had no need to learn how
to build a bike frame... and all the countless people who pursue their
own interests, their own art, their own pastimes. Hell, I had no real
need to learn machining, welding, music, woodworking and more. But life
is much richer with more knowledge.

 I had no need to learn welding, music, woodworking either, but I did.

Logic alert: Does this man not realize he's now arguing against his own position?

(How _does_ a person become a mature adult without having learned
anything about Stoicism? That's just astonishing.)

 Actually I know it well, in fact I pretty much live it, but I never
heard the term Stoicism.

Wow.
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- Frank Krygowski