Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending

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Sujet : Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending
De : jbslocomb (at) *nospam* fictitious.site (John B.)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 23. May 2025, 04:58:05
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On Thu, 22 May 2025 12:48:25 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

On 5/22/2025 12:17 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/21/2025 9:21 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/21/2025 6:12 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/21/2025 4:41 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>
But the public reaction to several well publicized
instances of institutional abuse of mentally ill spurred
politicians to act, which was widely supported at the
time.  Those were horrible, and real, but not
representative.
>
The unintended consequences now punish the citizenry
generally more than the inmates before 1963.
>
And that should be a lesson in why general public policy
should not be driven by extreme outlier cases.
>
>
OK, what's an outlier and what's not?
>
Emmett Till?
 
The murder of Emmett Till was not an outlier, which was the
main point of the publicity it generated.
 
Emmett Till's murder was an example, bringing to public
consciousness a widespread practice of lynchings and general
oppression of black people in the deep south.
 
Sometimes one incident can call attention to a big problem,
but that doesn't make the incident an outlier, except
perhaps in its press-worthiness.
 
 
>
Not  unique, but the total is much less than most people think:
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https://www.statista.com/statistics/1175147/lynching-by-race-state-and-race/
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https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/map-shows-over-a-century-of-documented-lynchings-in-united-states-180961877/
>
Roughly 86 per year.
>
Ohio, for example 10 white, 16 black.
>
Emmet Till's murder was significant in many ways and an
oultier in the sense that most received no publicity whatsoever.
>
There's nothing good to say about that, but Emmett Till's
death was a significant event toward passage of Mr
Eisenhower's 1957 Civil Rights Act.
>
As always, one man's crucial incident is another's
meaningless trivia.
>
p.s. The first USA lynching was of a group of Italians in
New Orleans. No one talked about 'civil rights' in that
context, and yet they did die at the end of a rope.


But I wonder... how many that were hung were in fact guilty of the
crime that they were executed for?
 In the Italian lynching 6 of the 19 had been declared innocent.
( it was also the introduction of the word "mafia" into the U.S.
dialect)
 
--
cheers,

John B.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
21 May 25 * Bicycle outing with happy ending38AMuzi
21 May 25 +- Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending1Catrike Ryder
21 May 25 `* Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending36Shadow
21 May 25  +* Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending34Catrike Ryder
21 May 25  i+* Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending8AMuzi
22 May 25  ii`* Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending7Frank Krygowski
22 May 25  ii `* Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending6AMuzi
22 May 25  ii  `* Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending5Frank Krygowski
22 May 25  ii   `* Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending4AMuzi
23 May 25  ii    `* Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending3John B.
23 May 25  ii     +- Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending1AMuzi
23 May 25  ii     `- Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending1Frank Krygowski
22 May 25  i+* Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending3Shadow
22 May 25  ii+- Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending1Catrike Ryder
23 May 25  ii`- Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending1AMuzi
23 May 25  i+- Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending1Shadow
24 May 25  i`* Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending21AMuzi
24 May 25  i +* Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending2Shadow
24 May 25  i i`- Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending1AMuzi
24 May 25  i `* Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending18Frank Krygowski
24 May 25  i  +* Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending14AMuzi
24 May 25  i  i+- Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending1Frank Krygowski
24 May 25  i  i+- Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending1Catrike Ryder
25 May 25  i  i`* Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending11John B.
25 May 25  i  i +* Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending4AMuzi
26 May 25  i  i i`* Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending3John B.
26 May 25  i  i i `* Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending2Shadow
27 May 25  i  i i  `- Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending1AMuzi
25 May 25  i  i `* Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending6AMuzi
25 May 25  i  i  `* Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending5Shadow
25 May 25  i  i   +* Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending3AMuzi
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26 May 25  i  i   `- Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending1John B.
24 May 25  i  `* Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending3Shadow
24 May 25  i   +- Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending1AMuzi
24 May 25  i   `- Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending1Frank Krygowski
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