Re: New York's Crackdown on Ebikes

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Sujet : Re: New York's Crackdown on Ebikes
De : Soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Ryder)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 30. May 2025, 17:30:52
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On Fri, 30 May 2025 12:06:29 -0400, Catrike Ryder
<Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:

On Fri, 30 May 2025 10:39:17 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
Am 30.05.2025 um 15:37 schrieb floriduh dumbass:
On Fri, 30 May 2025 15:16:21 +0200, Rolf Mantel
<news@hartig-mantel.de> wrote:
>
Am 30.05.2025 um 14:36 schrieb Catrike Ryder:
On Fri, 30 May 2025 08:25:26 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
On 5/26/2025 10:59 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/26/2025 8:38 AM, AMuzi wrote:
On 5/26/2025 4:16 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Sun, 25 May 2025 21:36:00 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
New York Times article on police cracking down on ebike traffic
violations. Let's see if this will get people past the paywall:
>
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/24/nyregion/ebikes-scooters-
cyclists- nyc.html?
unlocked_article_code=1.KE8.voH2.AOcHv0jrnp79&smid=url-share
>
>
“This is a direct attack on immigrant workers,” Ms. Guallpa
said. “The
intent is to criminalize workers and to create a situation where
our
communities could be targets for deportation.”
>
Typical NYT woke nonsense...
>
--
C'est bon
Soloman
>
+1 with the typical misdirection and conflation.
>
Legal Resident Aliens (taxpaying, working people who cannot vote)
are
ignored, along with US citizens. Criminal illegal aliens who, by
Statute, cannot work and who are subject to summary deportation
by the
same Statutes, are where her sympathies lie.
>
Damn. The right wing of this newsgroup is always on hair trigger!
>
The article contains over 2000 words. Of those, only about three
paragraphs mention immigrant delivery workers. The rest deals with
the
disparity between ebike and car enforcement policies, noting that
cars
kill far, far more pedestrians. It doesn't even mention that NYC
life is
totally dominated by the negative effects of car traffic. Yet
people are
enraged about the comparatively minuscule effects of ebikes, and
ebike
riders are in some ways being treated more harshly than car drivers.
>
Look, I think ebike riders should ride legally. I think U.S.
ebikes are
too fast, and/or should be legally treated more like motorcycles -
meaning integrated into traffic and kept off bike paths.
>
But you guys ignore all that, blinded by the brief mention of
immigrants. You never fail to respond to right wing dog whistles,
even
if  you have to blow the whistle yourself.
>
Braindead magatards like the floriduh dumbass will consistently
look for
a political scapegoat for any issue they have based their ignorant
opinions on, as is shown by his parroting of magatard groupthink
nonsense.
>
Andrew isn't as bad as most but even he more recently is allowing
himself to get sucked into the magatard groupthink propaganda -
there is
no evidence in that article to support "Criminal illegal aliens....are
where her sympathies lie."
>
Since deportation only applies to people in the USA illegally, her
statement absolutely indicates her sympathies are with the illegals.
>
Deportation applies to people "presumed illegal" by the administration,
not only to people legally determined illegal.
Sadly the current admisitration has declared people illegal and
attempted to deport without due process.
>
Ilegalas are not entitled to due process.
>
Yes, you braindead magatard, they are:
>
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2025/05/11/yes-immigrants-in-the-u-s-illegally-still-have-due-process-rights/83481316007/
>
"Despite Trump’s dismissal of and questions about due process for
immigrants, the U.S. Constitution, legal experts and decades of court
decisions agree: Immigrants in the U.S., regardless of how they entered
the U.S., legally or illegally, have due process rights."
>
Yet another case of the floriduh dumbass parroting magatard groupthink
propaganda
>
>
No, they don't.

There's no difference between spotting an illegal trying to swim
across the Rio Grande and forcing him/her to turn back and finding him
two or three years later. He/she has to right to due process.

--
C'est bon
Soloman

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