Re: New York's Crackdown on Ebikes

NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> wrote:

Roger Merriman wrote:
 

 
London so urban to Suburban, I’m outer london so mainly suburban, lower
speed limits 20mph is common, almost certainly and reasonably chance of it
being enforced aka speed cameras.

 
Just curious -- are you inside or outside of the M25?

Inside M25 tends to be line in the sand for if it’s London or not, are few
places it passes through what is considered london but in general it’s the
de facto border.

So some 40/50 miles across depending on where as it’s not a perfect ring by
any means!

 

 
We also have several canals (including one right next to my house) that
have dedicated multi-use paths on one side of the canal.  These are more
or less municipal paths, and very much a magnet for recreational use,
ranging from simple pedestrians to serious cyclists. On the other side
of the canal (at least in the space near my house) what's there is
essentially a service road that is owned by the water utility that
operates the canal. In some places, the service road is paved (and also
suitable for cycling, as it's even wider than the multi-use path), but
only a mile in either direction, the surface is gravel.
 

 
Those are lovely places but not particularly useful for utility purposes as
they are narrow and is limited as to how many can useful use such places.

 
Besides passing visual similarities, the two are entirely different
situations.
 
In Europe, I think that most canals tend to be done to facilitate
drainage, especially working around population density. Where I am, the
space is flat and very spread out.  Our canal system was actually built
several hundred years before the first European or Euro-American
settlers.  The Europeans modified somewhat with more modern engineering,
but for both, the intent of the canals is to move water from the river
system into places that it can be used for agricultural irrigation.
 

No European Canals where for transportation of industrial materials had
fairly brief moment in history before the railways arrived, hence the tow
paths for horses.

Are places where you get irrigation and drainage such as the fens where
they have drained the swamp as you where, but they aren’t the normal use
for canals which are transporting materials and goods. Are still some in
use like the ship canal between Liverpool and Manchester.

Smith
 

Roger Merriman