Re: Cycling and social policy

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Sujet : Re: Cycling and social policy
De : am (at) *nospam* yellowjersey.org (AMuzi)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 01. Jun 2025, 15:15:47
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On 5/31/2025 8:19 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 5/31/2025 11:10 AM, AMuzi wrote:
https://nypost.com/2025/05/30/opinion/lefties-pro-migrant- push-back-on- tischs-e-bike-crackdown-is-obscene/
 The New York Post trades heavily in sensationalism and political divisiveness.
 Here was the main point in the New York Times article I linked on this issue: "Cyclists who blow through red lights without endangering anyone else can now be forced to appear in court. Drivers who commit the same violation cannot." As I presently noted here, immigrants, legal or not, were barely mentioned. Complaints centered around the fact that bikes or ebikes are a tiny portion of pedestrian risk - motor vehicles are far, far more dangerous - but motoring offenses are treated far more lightly.
 And regarding the incident linked within your NYP article regarding a 3-year-old girl getting knocked down when she ran into a protected bike lane: Both the article describing it and the bulk of reader comments faulted the design of the bike lane, not the fact that it was an ebike. If there was _any_ mention of immigrants, it was minor. (I'm one of those who think that facility design is nuts.)
 Finally, let's please remember that most immigrants are legal. Many do take low paying jobs, including things like food delivery, but that does not make them into illegals.
 
I found the 'discrimination toward illegals' argument interesting in a macabre sort of way.
And yes, I agree with you that most foreigners here are legally present. I am a strong proponent of clarity to distinguish among newly naturalized citizens, temporary visa holders, resident aliens and illegal aliens. Conflating those is dishonest if not pernicious.
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Andrew Muzi
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
31 May 25 * Cycling and social policy33AMuzi
1 Jun 25 `* Re: Cycling and social policy32Frank Krygowski
1 Jun 25  +- Re: Cycling and social policy1Catrike Ryder
1 Jun 25  +* Re: Cycling and social policy2zen cycle
1 Jun 25  i`- Re: Cycling and social policy1Catrike Ryder
1 Jun 25  `* Re: Cycling and social policy28AMuzi
3 Jun 25   `* Re: Cycling and social policy27zen cycle
3 Jun 25    +- Re: Cycling and social policy1Catrike Ryder
3 Jun 25    `* Re: Cycling and social policy25AMuzi
3 Jun 25     +* Re: Cycling and social policy23Frank Krygowski
3 Jun 25     i+* Re: Cycling and social policy21AMuzi
4 Jun 25     ii`* Re: Cycling and social policy20Frank Krygowski
4 Jun 25     ii +* Re: Cycling and social policy18Catrike Ryder
4 Jun 25     ii i`* Re: Cycling and social policy17AMuzi
4 Jun 25     ii i `* Re: Cycling and social policy16Zen Cycle
4 Jun 25     ii i  +* Re: Cycling and social policy14AMuzi
4 Jun 25     ii i  i`* Re: Cycling and social policy13Frank Krygowski
4 Jun 25     ii i  i +- Re: Cycling and social policy1Catrike Ryder
4 Jun 25     ii i  i `* Re: Cycling and social policy11Zen Cycle
4 Jun 25     ii i  i  +* Re: Cycling and social policy8Catrike Ryder
4 Jun 25     ii i  i  i`* Re: Cycling and social policy7Frank Krygowski
4 Jun 25     ii i  i  i +- Re: Cycling and social policy1Catrike Ryder
4 Jun 25     ii i  i  i +* Re: Cycling and social policy2zen cycle
5 Jun 25     ii i  i  i i`- Re: Cycling and social policy1Catrike Ryder
4 Jun 25     ii i  i  i +- Re: Cycling and social policy1zen cycle
4 Jun 25     ii i  i  i `* Re: Cycling and social policy2zen cycle
5 Jun 25     ii i  i  i  `- Re: Cycling and social policy1Catrike Ryder
4 Jun 25     ii i  i  `* Re: Cycling and social policy2AMuzi
4 Jun 25     ii i  i   `- Re: Cycling and social policy1Frank Krygowski
4 Jun 25     ii i  `- Re: Cycling and social policy1Catrike Ryder
4 Jun 25     ii `- Re: Cycling and social policy1AMuzi
3 Jun 25     i`- Re: Cycling and social policy1Catrike Ryder
3 Jun 25     `- Re: Cycling and social policy1Zen Cycle

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