Re: New York's Crackdown on Ebikes

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Sujet : Re: New York's Crackdown on Ebikes
De : Soloman (at) *nospam* old.bikers.org (Catrike Ryder)
Groupes : rec.bicycles.tech
Date : 02. Jun 2025, 16:54:08
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On Mon, 2 Jun 2025 10:21:01 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On 6/2/2025 4:16 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 21:13:21 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
 
On 6/1/2025 2:35 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 14:18:25 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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On 6/1/2025 2:08 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
On Sun, 1 Jun 2025 14:05:47 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
On 6/1/2025 12:07 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 6/1/2025 10:41 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 6/1/2025 10:28 AM, AMuzi wrote:
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Persons who are present illegally are subject to deportation with
extremely limited process:
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https://www.usa.gov/deportation-process
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Mostly a finding of fact that they are, indeed, illegally present.
>
Didn't you just link the details of "due process"?
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>
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It is quite limited and unlike those for a citizen:
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Right. But not nonexistent, as some claim.
>
Who claimed that?
Someone claiming to be Catrike Ryder did, 5/30, posting here in an
argument with Zen.
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[feeble tricyclist:]
Ilegalas [sic] are not entitled to due process.
>
[Zen:] Yes, you braindead magatard, they are:
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2025/05/11/yes-immigrants-in-the-u-s-illegally-still-have-due-process-rights/83481316007/
>
   "Despite Trump’s dismissal of and questions about due process for
   immigrants, the U.S. Constitution, legal experts and decades of court
   decisions agree: Immigrants in the U.S., regardless of how they entered
   the U.S., legally or illegally, have due process rights."
>
>
[feeble tricyclist:]
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No, they don't.
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If you're having memory problems, try taking notes. Or as with Tom,
learn how to re-read what you've posted upthread.
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Krygowski is desperate to prove me wrong, and indeed...
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Indeed, you were wrong. Own it.
 
I just did...
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And your anger and embarrassment are obvious, by your obscenities and
attacks. Others here have admitted their errors with far more class.

<chuckle> You mean "the anger and embarrassment" I expressed by adding
an admission that I've made many mistakes in my life?

I should have added that I intend to make more mistakes in my
remaining years.

Maybe that's partly because they didn't invest a week in repeating the
same false claims over and over, repeatedly denying that they were wrong
despite evidence.

My mistake was to think of due process as requiring courtrooms,
lawyers and judges, as most people do.  My statement was slightly
incorrect in that an illegal's so called "due process" is so limited
as to only require an opportunity for them to document their legal
status to the arresting officer.

But hey, congratulations on finally learning a little bit!

--
C'est bon
Soloman

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