Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due process' for Trump deportees:

On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 08:40:53 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

On 6/3/2025 8:20 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 07:59:37 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
 

On 6/3/2025 3:31 AM, Catrike Ryder wrote:

On Tue, 3 Jun 2025 01:57:37 -0000 (UTC), Beej Jorgensen <beej@beej.us>
wrote:
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In article <101i16r$2ados$1@dont-email.me>, AMuzi  <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

I believe he's referring to ID/arrest errors. They have happened. They
are few. They been well publicized.

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The ones you know of, anyway.
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One of the reason that due process is so important for everyone is so
the government can't just point its finger at *you*, say "MS-13", and
put you on a plane to a foreign prison from which they have no power to
remove you.
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Why would they do that? Maybe you're here illegally and have a tattoo.
Or maybe you just said something someone didn't like and "oops" you're
gone. "Our mistake, sorry. No, we can't bring him home. So sorry about
that."
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but administrative remedies are established.

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Unless you're in a Salvadorian prison, in which case they aren't.
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Franklin said he'd rather see 100 criminals go free before one innocent
person was incarcerated. That's the level of care we should be taking.
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IMHO.

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I believe that is the current "level of care."  I haven't seen anyone
sent to the Salvadorian prison who doesn't belong there.
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--
C'est bon
Soloman

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There was a false statement inserted into a filing in re
Kilmar Abrego Garcia that he had been deported in error. The
Justice Department employee who added that was fired the
next morning and the filing emended, but not before many
reports and the clutching of pearls. That breathless
reportage, false though it may be, persists.
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That is not a civil rights problem. It's a problem of
disinformation and propaganda.  As Monday morning's NYT for
example, whose front page did not cover the immolation of
live US citizens, including a Holocaust survivor, in Boulder
by an illegal jihadi screaming 'free palestine.' Deemed not
interesting enough by editorial staff.
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https://forward.com/news/724924/boulder-firebomb-attack-antisemitism/
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They did give front page placement to the false report of 40
arabs shot dead in Gaza by IDF, which in fact did not
happen. That false report was all over the radio yesterday
as well (I do not own a television) despite multiple
immediate corrections by people who were there, including video.
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https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2025/06/02/false-reporting-ghf-counters-widespread-media-claims-of-israeli-attack-on-palestinians-seeking-aid-in-gaza/
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Sadly, just as Ms Palin never said anything remotely like,
"I can see Russia from my house", the skewing of perception
continues in this as in all things, with great success.

 
I'm beginning to wonder how safe it is for me to wander around in my
"I STAND WITH ISRAEL" SHIRT, like I did yesterday.
 
--
C'est bon
Soloman

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25 years ago, at the second intifada, I put a 5x8 inch
Israeli mogen on my shop front door. The glass was promptly
smashed that evening and several times after, cracks
radiating from the flag each time.
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And not only random pedestrians:
http://www.yellowjersey.org/photosfromthepast/NAZI.JPG

I spent several years living and working in Madison. I was very happy
when they moved us out of there. I had already moved my family to the
suburbs.

Some people's entire purpose is to hate. One of my guilty pleasures is
to trigger them to express that hate, and thus show themselves to be
a$$holes. The thing I worry about most when I wear my in-your-face
message Tshirts is that someone will see me leave the car or the truck
and damage it. The community I live in is racially and religiously
diverse, but it's very "red," so I seldom have any problem encounters
here, but I have had them in Tampa, St Pete, and out on the bike
trails simply for displaying the USA flag.

Today, I'll be going with my wife to do some shopping, so my Tshirt
will be non-controversial so as not to put her in any danger.

--
C'est bon
Soloman